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Re: Just had a brainstorm... stop me before it's too late..


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Posted by Indiana Ken on November 22, 2011 at 07:24:58 from (67.177.114.180):

In Reply to: Just had a brainstorm... stop me before it's too late.. posted by jm. on November 22, 2011 at 05:34:55:


dave2 said: (quoted from post at 07:06:30 11/22/11)
Indiana Ken said: (quoted from post at 07:01:25 11/22/11)

Yes certainly a workable solution since you have the pieces parts on hand. I am assuming the supply line would be insulated and would be best if it was self draining - just in case of power failure or whatever.

As an option if you could place a storage tank in a non-freezing area near the stall water units the system would not need to be heated. Simply fill the storage tank and allow the suppy line to drain. This would also eliminate/reduce the need for insulation of the supply line.


....thinking that would be the hot water tank (drain capabilities) at the source... Or do you have something else in mind? Just wouldn't heat the water unless needed.


1) I was thinking (perhaps incorrectly) that the 70 ft supply line from the source to the barn is all that needs to be prevented from freezing. In this case my suggestion was to put a storage/holding tank in the barn and supply the drinkers. My thought was that the drinkers etc. in the barn did not need to be protected from freezing. The supply line would be drained after filling the holding tank.

2) In re-reading your post I now think I understand that you desire a non-freezing pressurized loop from the source > drinkers > faucet > back to source. In this case I would agree with your approach, with one caveat. You may want to set the water temperature at say 35 degrees and run the circulating pump continously in freezing weather. With 100 + ft of exposed (or insulated) plumbing you would be subject to a freeze up during the time the water is not circulating. A cold wind blowing on a section of line can freeze it very quickly....shutting down your entire loop.....been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Running the pump continously would prevent localized freeze ups. In addition, the pump would be adding heat to the water since no pump is 100% efficient. In moderate weather, this may allow the water heater to be bypassed. Monitoring the temperature of the returning water (not outside air) would be the best place to measure the temperature, for system control purposes.

Sorry, I intended to review this post before sending but hit submit instead of preview. This edit is to correct spelling, typo's and to clarify. If there are still questions on any statements, please post back. Ken

This post was edited by Indiana Ken at 11:53:57 11/22/11.



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