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Re: Farmall 450 Gas question


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Posted by the tractor vet on April 17, 2009 at 18:51:12 from (76.212.233.212):

In Reply to: Farmall 450 Gas question posted by Tony_Idaho on April 17, 2009 at 12:18:14:

Well lets see here he is telling ya that the gas of today is better then what was out there back in the day , and to this i say B/S just try and run a car from back then on todays gas . The cars of today have a low compression ratio layed back cam timing pre ing. knock detectors computer controlled injection . And are by no means a hard working industrial engine .Now over the years how many times has that head been off and milled ???? what pistons do you have in it ???? Do you work it or just play with it ???? Today we started planting Oats and had the old 400 gas on the new to my buddy a 5100 21x7 drill loaded full and John did not get the 93 octane and could only get 87 because they were out at the one station and instead of going else where he figured it would be fine , OOOOOPpppps the 400 started to spit sputter back fire thru the air cleaner and lots power and died coming up the hill on the first round . i was discing and saw him stop and a couple seconds later he get off and heads my way . I stop and go over to him and he told me what had happened . All i had to day was yep told ya ya can not run it and we had to drain the tank make a second trip and get the 93 . Filled it up with the good stuff and she ran all day never a miss . But he has the high dome pistons and a 450 gas head . Also keep this in mind that the new pistons that ya get in these overhaul kits are NOT THE SAME OLD FASHIONED PISTONS FROM DAYS GONE BY . The new pistons are NOT FORGED they are CAST and a cast piston CAN NOT get ride of heat thru the skirts like a FORGED piston can and they will Swell more then the forged piston will . PLUS this new gas is designed for emissions and the 87 burns MUCH hotter Aand the addition of alkihol leans the mixture and the ALKIHOL is a oxygenating agent thus leaning the burn to burn HOTTER . Where as the 93 octane is a longer COOLER burning and does give more power and believe it or not ya use a little less fuel per hour . I have beat this dead dog so long now that i have gotten to the point that i really and truthfully Do not give a SHUTT what ya want to run and since i do not have to FIX what ever ya break here again i really don't care . When you guys that think you know one forth of what i know can fix what i can and tune a gas engine or diesel better then go for it . I do not know everything BUT i am DAMN good on I H Ford and MOPARs Also keep in mind here that i am not the one asking the questions i am the one that give good answers FOR FREE


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