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Re: Lanse welding your truck frame


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Posted by Paul in MN on May 08, 2010 at 21:28:05 from (71.210.130.157):

In Reply to: Lanse welding your truck frame posted by trucker 40 on May 08, 2010 at 18:25:04:

Trucker 40,

I am not about to dispute anything you have said here, as I think your advice is right on. But as I recall, Lance is about to acquire an S10 frame, which I think (but not sure) is pretty thin metal, maybe 14 gauge. And I think the frame is box section or maybe box section and flange section hybrid. I have welded on Corvette frames (rust replacement sections just forward of the rear axle) and frame repair on our old Loadstar 1600 grain truck. At the experience level I now have (repair farm welding 50 years), I can do a satisfactory job on either. But Lance is new to this and 7018 is a bugger to strike an arc with if you have no experience. It is also one of the easiest rods to burn through thin metal making big holes probably not repairable with his level of experience. I have been a welding instructor for our new guys in our Blacksmith Guild. I can teach them to be basic welders in 8 hours, but I start them with 6013 flat position, then step up to 6011 (flat) in rough and rusty steel, and then finally teach them to use 7018 in high carbon steel. And if Lance has no arc welding experience, I recommend that he follow the same progression of rods on practice metal before he welds frame.

He should also know that heating up the 7018 rods for a few hours will make them easier to use and give better results. Make a rod oven, or use a heat lamp (or use Mom's oven set on low, if she is not home). This is much less of a problem if the rods are brand new, but if they have been hanging around the shop for a few months or years, they absorb moisture from the air and can get pretty ornery.

If he can't find any old timer like you or me to help him get started, them maybe he can look up (internet) his closest ABANA chapter and ask for some old timer to give him a few hours of hands-on welding instruction (may even be no cost....I have done this a few times for young guys).

I want him to be successful if he tries this.

Paul in MN


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