Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 
Marketplace
Classified Ads
Photo Ads
Tractor Parts
Salvage

Community
Discussion Forums
Project Journals
Your Stories
Events Calendar
Hauling Schedule

Galleries
Tractor Photos
Implement Photos
Vintage Photos
Help Identify
Parts & Pieces
Stuck & Troubled
Vintage Ads
Community Album
Photo Ad Archives

Research & Info
Articles
Tractor Registry
Tip of the Day
Safety Cartoons
Tractor Values
Serial Numbers
Tune-Up Guide
Paint Codes
List Prices
Production Nbrs
Tune-Up Specs
Torque Values
3-Point Specs
Glossary

Miscellaneous
Tractor Games
Just For Kids
Virtual Show
Museum Guide
Memorial Page
Feedback Form

Yesterday's Tractors Facebook Page

  
Tractor Talk Discussion Board

Re: Running engine without thermostat


[ Expand ] [ View Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] [ Return to Forum ]

Posted by Gerald J. on March 26, 2005 at 13:17:43 from (67.0.96.184):

In Reply to: Running engine without thermostat posted by Willy P on March 25, 2005 at 18:59:25:

Other than engine efficiency and life there's no need for the thermostat.

With the combustion temperature several hundred degrees higher than the coolant temperture, running the cooling system cold takes more heat from the combustion and so reduces the output of the engine. So the cold engine takes more fuel for the same load. For this consideration it would be nice to run a coolant temperature a couple hundred degrees warmer, but pistons and rings can't yet hack higher temperatures. Ceramic pistons, cylinders, and rings may allow that higher coolant temperatures in the future. Essentially, the hotter you can run the engine AND still lubricate it (there's be big rub) and take away the waste heat (in a diesel more than 2/3 of the heat energy in the fuel goes to the oil and coolant) the better.

Then there are the side effects on the oil. Water is a combustion product of hydrocarbon fuels (from burning the hydrogen). Cool cylinder walls condense that water that then can run into the crankcase. Inburned fuel follows. Both affect the lubricating oil adversely. Makes sludge and that sludge blocks passages and the water and fuel parts of the "lubricating" oil don't lubricate well so bearings wear. On top of that water with combustion products like those from burning a bit of sulfur makes sulfuric acid that eats bearings.

Running the engine as close to water boiling as possible (180 or 210 degree thermostat with a closed and pressurized cooling system) boils the fuel and water OUT of the oil getting far better bearing and oil life.

Running an engine without a thermostat is ABUSE, don't do it. If the engine doesn't heat up the thermostat isn't closing properly. Put in a new thermostat. If the engine still doesn't warm up, restrict the air flow through the radiator in the winter.

Gerald J.


Follow Ups:




Post a Followup

:
:

: :

:

:

:

: If you check this box, email will be sent to you whenever someone replies to this message. Your email address must be entered above to receive notification. This notification will be cancelled automatically after 2 weeks.


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Today's Featured Article - Women and Tractors - More Views From the Farmer's Wife - by Teri Burkholder. The top ten reasons why the judges wouldn't let you participate in the stock antique tractor pull: Hey, this is stock! It came with that V8 in it! That "R" on my tires stands for "really old" not radial! Blue gas? We thought it was a pretty color! What wire hooked to my throttle? ... [Read Article]

Latest Ad: Sell 1958 Hi-Altitude Massey Fergerson tractor, original condition. three point hitch pto engine, Runs well, photos available upon request [More Ads]

Copyright © 1997-2024 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy