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Re: OT Union Worker Question


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Posted by Billy NY on July 20, 2014 at 15:59:57 from (66.67.105.23):

In Reply to: OT Union Worker Question posted by John B. on July 20, 2014 at 15:19:26:

In simple terms, if you no longer have a contract and legal obligation of any kind, then I would think all you would need to do is get everyone on board, and meet with the other unions, business agent, delegate or whomever will handle negotiations, contracts and the like. In simple terms isn't it along those lines ? If Union A's contract expires and there is no longer an obligation, you are free to organize with or how you wish correct ? I realize there are lots of details, legal issues, documents, provisions, negotiations but essentially you are just changing label correct? I am not sure about the company's opinion on doing so, all will have to be in agreement with the terms etc,. that may get involved, and you don't know who is connected to who, what ripple effects there may be later, or just by contemplating it.

I have dealt with the repercussions of this, whereas a contractor I hired, had done just that, and the previous union got really nasty and illegally picketed them on my job, then tried to interfere with other union trades on that job, with the intent to get them to honor the picket, stop work and be real ball busters. I bought the services from this contractor, but did not inherit the associated and or retaliating district council of carpenters. One of the more bizarre things I have had to deal with, regarding union trades. So as not to lose any production, I got a hold of their new union's atty, explained the situation, it was determined that it was illegal, what the DC of carpenters were doing, picketing, got an injunction to stop it. In addition it was illegal beyond that, as in NYC, they have to notify police, and be assigned a designated area to do so, inflate their giant rat etc. So ( and I have photos of this) when the delegate threatened me as well, I said you will get a phone call at 2 PM sharp, you will be instructed to cease the picket, be instructed to leave by the 10th precinct, in addition, if you do not I will drive this 844D Lull telehandler right through your rat and do it myself! The photo I have is with me in the seat on the machine facing the rat, and him on the street. I had also made 50 copies of the injunction earlier, went to the scaffold, where 30 bricklayers were working and gave them a copy, stating to them its illegal and they do not have to honor it, keep working, same with the operating engineer, he wanted to leave anyway, they had enough material to finish, so I manned the 844D Lull. Dirty rotten scoundrel tried to intimidate me, every person on the job, even the port-o-john attendant, who was union as well, got him so upset he could have had a heart attack, I hate a bully, and that was that. It was a vendetta for the company re-organizing after the contract expired, thought I was some push over, but the push over knows how to run his jobs and settled it with an absolute defense, what a jerk this guy was, he even said to me, well I'll have to inflate the rat, set up picket, whaddaya gonna do ???? LOL ! He found out right quick, and I wanted to run those forks through that rat, but was thinking this may get me trip to Rikers Island, so I let it play out, in the old days when I was younger, I'd have just ran it over, worried about that later.


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