Posted by JD Seller on September 14, 2013 at 19:42:58 from (208.126.196.144):
In Reply to: Rippers posted by Dave from MN on September 14, 2013 at 08:31:25:
I would go with the Kewanee 2500 because it is a V ripper. The type of compaction you are talking about is going to be a HARD pull. That takes a V riper to do.
The inline rippers like the Tebbon DT5-30 take speed to create a wave front that spreads the hard pan shatter. In the hard compaction you are talking about you will not get a very good shatter with this type of tool.
Rip the ground when it is as dry as possible. It will shatter better. It will also pull harder but you will get more of the compaction out. If the ground is wet a V ripper will pull easier because it is just cutting slots not shattering the hard pan.
Be ready to pull the guts out of the tractor even with just a five shank on a 180-200 HP tractor. I have a JD 4960 MFWD with 20.8 x 42 radial tires. I use a JD 913 5 shank ripper behind it. In regular ground I can run at 6-7 MPH pulling fairly easy. In ground with a tough hard pan like you are talking about I have brought the tractor to a dead STOP. Just flat ran out of power. The JD 4960 is rated right at 200 PTO HP.
In some real hard ground I have had to rip it once at about 12 inches deep. Then come right back at an angle running 18-20 inches deep to get under the hard pan. I have had chunks as big as a 55 gallon barrel pop up.
I would work the ground just like you have out lines. RIP, manure , then disk, and then plant.
If you spread the manure first you will spin out in some places. You are going to need the best tractor you can get if it is as hard as you say.
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