showcrop said: (quoted from post at 08:29:51 08/26/13)
Bret4207 said: (quoted from post at 06:09:11 08/26/13)
Rusted nuts said: (quoted from post at 16:00:14 08/25/13) Well I don't know why you Hate trucks as much as you do They Pay a ell of a lot more tax mony to be on that road than Amish buggies do. Sounds Like you need to put most all your English Neighbors In jail. I agree, Amish, English, blacks, Indians Don't matter, Always going to be some Askholes in the bunch, Just glad I don't live where you do. Amish have been liveing down here since the early 40.s
I don't "hate trucks", I just fail to see the sense in blaming the Amish for something they have very little to do with when it's the trucks and mother nature that are tearing up the roads. People need to open their eyes and look around before trying to pass off an idea that a buggy is doing any damage to a road. That's why the trucks have top pay so much to be on the road- because it's perfectly obvious it's the trucks, and in my area huge tractors and manure wagons, doing the damage.
Well Brett maybe I am all wet. My first post was that I noticed wear of the pavement, with no reference to trucks. It was most noticeable on a stretch of route 772, Newport Rd between Mascot and Leola. What I saw was a depression in the pavement, with roughness, running along the edge about three feet in from the edge of the pavement and about twenty inches wide. It was worn deepest in the middle, and as I said there were places where it had worn right through the top course of pavement. It has the appearance of a snowmobile trail crossing except that it runs along instead of across the road. You must have snowmobile trail crossings there in northern NY. I said nothing judgmental in my post or negative in my post. I stated nothing judgmental about the wear. I made no reference to wheels. I know that most buggies are now on composite wheels. I had enjoyable visits with some Amish while driving around and also while at the Threshermen's Reunion. I assure that I had my eyes wide open while driving and looking at these depressions worn into the pavement. So, since I must be wrong, since it appears that you have to be right, please tell me what is causing this pattern of wear along these roads.
Showcrop, I don't believe I have responded to a single thing you've posted here. I was responding to Rusted nuts and Ron/PA. FWIW, I have seen similar worn areas along the right edge of the road up where Amish rarely travel. I do note that a tractor and manure wagon traveling half in the road would put it's wheels just about where the rut was.
I'm sure that given enough time steel wheeled wagons could do a lot of damage to a road. I'm equally sure I'd have noticed the damage over the last 15 years. Our local roads up here are usually chip sealed every 5-7 years. Over that time there does not appear to be near the damage from steel wheeled buggies and wagons, much less horses, than there is from truck and tractor traffic. We just had this discussion at our last town board meeting and the same charges were made by some locals, oddly enough one of the locals being a BTO who breaks up the town road with his heavy tractors every year. IT was the same ignorant, bigoted charges about them doing all sorts of damage and not paying taxes, buying up the good land (an absolute lie! They buy the worst farms and bring them back.) and how they get oil money from "...the Bishops in Pa." even though our Amish are from Ohio and Ky. It's truly maddening to see the hate and bigotry that if aimed at a black or gay would result in lawsuits and maybe criminal charges.
This post was edited by Bret4207 at 14:50:47 08/26/13.
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