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Problem guy/bidder/former neighbor. ( long post)


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Posted by JDseller on April 07, 2012 at 19:27:18 from (208.126.196.144):

This guy's Dad was a neighbor for almost forty years. The father died two years ago. They had to sell everything to settle the kids fighting over the "money". There where three JD 4020s and two JD 3020s. They where kind of rough and not anything special.

The day of the sale my brother and I decided that if we could buy any or all of them we would go together on them for winter shop work. I went to the sale. The man's kids where all there. I talked to them all. I told them if they wanted something make sure they were where I could see them. I would not bid against them. All of them but the youngest one told me that they did not want anything that was on the sale. The youngest(John) told me he wanted his Dad's 1968 4020. I told him I would not bid against him but if he quit bidding I would then bid. You have got to understand I have known all of these kids from birth. Most of them have been over to my place with my kids.

So the auction started. I did buy a few small things but when it came to the tractors there where few bidders. I bought both JD 3020s and then when they started on the 68 model 4020 I did not bid at first. "John" was standing right next to me when they where selling the tractor. He only bid one time for $3900. The tractor was worth much more than that. When the bidding started to slow down I asked him if he was done. He said he was and that he had bid all he could. I told him I was going to start bidding then. I got the tractor for $6900. I then bought the other two as well. I gave a little more for them as they where close and I had done most of the repair work on them. Plus I felt that I was helping out the kids some buy helping them get a little more money.

When I was checking out I told John that he could buy the tractor off of me for just what I gave for it as long as I had not spent anything else on it. I told him I would save it for the last one we would get ready to sell and that would give him a few months to get more money rounded up. He was getting a fifth of the farm/auction money.

Well just before I put that tractor into the shop a few months later I called "John" I told him I had not done anything to the tractor but I was getting ready to run it through the shop. He told me he still did not have enough money so he would just have to pass on it. So I tuned it up and straighten the sheet metal all out. I then had it painted and then put all new tires on it. You all know what tires cost today.

When it was all done I advertised it for $11,000 in several local and state wide papers. I had put over 3K in it so I was not getting rich at that price. Guess who called to come and look at the tractor??? "John" He came out to the farm and came up to me with a hand full of cash. He said he had the money for HIS tractor now. What the heck??? He only had $6900 there. I told him that the tractor was for sale at $11,000 now. He went crazy. Cussing, crying and acting like a little kid. He told me I was a crook and a thief. That I had "stole" that tractor and all kinds of things. I tried to tell him I would sell it for exactly what I had in it. He would not even think about it. I had to call the law to get off the farm. I even held the JD 4020 for a little while longer to give him a chance. He would not offer anything more so I sold it.

Now he is going around bad mouthing me to everyone that will listen. He even is at auctions trying to stir up trouble. He will stand back in the crowd and talk real loud about how terrible equipment jockeys are.

Today I was at a high dollar sale. I was watching for a dealer friend that could not get to the sale. This sale was a little different in that there where two color bidder numbers. The green ones where for $30,000 and down. Those you just needed a drivers license to get. Then red ones that where for more than $30,000 and you had to have a bank letter of credit to get those. I had a red number as the equipment that I was bidding on for my friend was well above the lower number.

I thought that I saw "John" at the sale. Fine it is a free country. When the auctioneer got to the high dollar stuff the bidders thinned out. I was bidding on some items when I saw "John" bidding against me when ever I bid. That just seemed strange. He is not in the equipment business. So they knocked of an item to him and he played like he had misunderstood the auctioneer on the bid amount. So the auctioneer had to rebid the item. It was over what I wanted to go anyway. So a few items later here good old "John" was back at the bidding whenever I would bid. I asked the auctioneer's helper to check to see if all of the current bidders where registered to be bidding at this price level. The auctioneer told everyone to put their numbers where they could be seen. He said that red numbers only for the rest of this row. John threw a fit about not being able to bid any more. They had to have a deputy walk John off the property.

I am starting to worry about this kid being nuts or something. I don't worry about myself but what about my property or family??? Am I just being paranoid??? He is acting real weird. I wish I had never bought that tractor but I don't think I did anything wrong. I gave him multiple chances to buy that tractor. If he would come up with over 10K now I could get him the tractor back. I know where it is and have talked to the current owner. He is willing to help me out just as long as he does not lose any money. John does not seem rational about the whole deal. He still wants the tractor at the auction price. I am at a loss as how to handle this. Any of you have any ideas???


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