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Re: M/Super M live hydraulic pump questions:Compatibility ??


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Posted by D Slater on November 03, 2011 at 09:05:28 from (184.15.3.93):

In Reply to: Re: M/Super M live hydraulic pump questions:Compatibility ?? posted by Mike1972chev on November 02, 2011 at 19:10:29:

Mike some more on the front engine cover. On some M tractors that have the same bolt pattern to mount a IH type pump originaly built by pesco and thompson, I mentioned clearance issues on some using a IH type pump with a place on the drive end shaft for a hour meter drive gear. To spot the cover and check the clearance. After the ignition drive is removed, look in the hole. If you see a screen fastened by 2 bolts, check the clearance or saw the pump shaft off for the HMD. if not needed. Later front covers had the screen moved up to under the oil fill cap. Another caution, make sure the bottom mounting bolt engine side for a pump or ignition drive is not to long. If to long it will go through and contact the cam gear. Ones that survive that happening have metal scaring of the gear and metal cuttings in the engine.
Cam gear 6760 DA was changed on the farmall tractors to 6760 DB at C264 engine # 155941 in 400 tractor. About the only difference from DA was DB machined for a tighter fit on the cam shaft. Wish I knew the exact time the change was made on a M from D cam to DA, but you want facts so I don't know. Think it was later than the bolt pattern change of front cover.
IH came out with another camshaft to help with the cam hub getting loose on the cam. Cam with left hand threads and nut were added starting C281 engine # 9861 in a farmall 450. All the latest design cams and gears became the replacement parts for the whole familiy of engines.
Most kits M&W sold for M SM tractors were set at 1000 PSI max. SM and SMTA with IH pump pressure relief around 1000 PSI. 400 and 450 ran higher relief pressures. M&W did sell one kit limited to less than 1000 PSI.
My experience so far is finding more replacement cam gears in M tractors than original ones.
Maybe this answered part of the questions.


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