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Re: SA electrical problems, part 2


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Posted by John T on November 04, 2009 at 04:33:26 from (66.244.97.31):

In Reply to: Re: SA electrical problems, part 2 posted by Mark on November 03, 2009 at 19:32:32:

Hey Mark, how you get in these darn messes anyway lol.....FWIW an old buddy once came to me all excited and ranting n raving about how an old Massey 44 he had RAN (although veryyyyyyy poor)WHEN THE DISTRIBUTOR CAP WASNT EVEN MOUNTED ON THE DISTRIBUTOR !!!!!!!!! Sure it had alllllll its plug wires and coil wire intact but was hanging there loose not even near the distributor so he asks me "Ol John T how can that happen" to which I explain the coil still fires each time the points break open and,,,,,,,,the spark was jumping from the top of the cap to one of the 4 cap pick ups

Nowwwwwww about your timing and 180 off questions:

REGARDLESS what gear the distributor is on (in time or not) if it rotates the points still close then break open and fire the coil sooooooooooo if at the time they break open the rotor tip is lined up wiht one of the caps internal pick ups, a spark will jump to that pick up if theres a plug n wire attached HOWEVERRRRRRRR to run properly (NOT like my buddys MH 44) that particular plug needs to be in a cylinder that has a piston near TDC on its Compression power Stroke BUTTTTTTTTTTTT you ask if the dist drive gear is wayyyyyyy off where it should be how can that be,,,,,,,,to which I say hey if you keep rotating the distributor (like when you time it) you can compensate the "off" timing and make her run......

What Im saying is if the dist wasnt on the right gear tooth if you can time/rotate the distributor far enough you can still get it in time GET IT?????????

Once more if the coil wire is good and it fires each time the points break open but you get no fire out of the plug wires I still think its EITHER an out of register cap or rotor problem or the wrong cap SUCH THAT WHEN THE POINTS BREAK OPEN THE ROTOR TIP isnt lined up with one of the caps internal pick ups....Thats an easy look n see test,,,,,,,observe just where the points break open n see if the rotor tip is lining up with where one of the pick ups would be if the cap were installed.....If so perhaps the rotor tip is shorted out or not on register/time itself ALSO that saprk needs to occur at TDC on teh Compression power stroke of teh cylinder that plug wire goes to

NOTE you talk like the coil fires but theres no spark to the plugs/wires !!!!!!!!! if the problem is something different we have to start this analysis all over........if the wires n plugs are indeed firing but she dont run let us know, maybe thats just a timing problem NOT ONE WHERE THE CAP OR ROTOR OR ROTOR REGISTER ISNT IN THE CORRECT LOCATION like your post led many of us to believe

God Bless yall here

John T


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