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Re: Re: Re: Re: 113 or 123 cid engine?


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Posted by Hugh MacKay on February 13, 2004 at 04:52:11 from (216.208.58.102):

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: 113 or 123 cid engine? posted by Hugh MacKay on February 12, 2004 at 20:22:27:

Gene & Dave: Are we absolutely sure about all specs on these engines? With Dave's C, that totals 6 of these engines I came in contact with just yesterday and everyone of them had a different part number cast into the block. I know I have been involved in discussions before on this site where an engine had to be bored for larger sleeves and piston. Mt reasoning is there is no situation whereby a C-123 block would need boring. My obvious question is are there some of the early C-113 blocks that will take 3-1/8 and some may not.

The information I have been given for the new block in 1951 with the introduction of the Super C with the C-123 engine was not that IH needed a new casting for the C-123 engine but rather the old C-113 block could not be bored for the 3-1/4 sleeve and piston in the C-135 engine. It was also cost effective to manufacture 3 separate sleeve and piston sets as opposed to two different castings.

I am inclined to think, just maybe Dave was right on his original post," Take the pan off and measure."

Finally gene I said Super A1 with C-123 from factory with water pump, not Super AI (industrial). The Super A1 run from serial number 356001 to 357958, making a total of 1,957 tractors which were in reality Farmall 100 with Super A sheet metal. A few of the SA1 were in fact also industrials.


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