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Re: Watch out for plastic crankcases . .


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Posted by jdemaris on November 08, 2010 at 10:25:04 from (67.142.130.37):

In Reply to: Re: Watch out for plastic crankcases . . posted by Mathias NY on November 08, 2010 at 10:01:57:

I didn't say anything specifically about the MS250 and I have no idea what is inside of it. I said that Sthil and Husky make some saws with plastic crankcases and some with metal. They also make some saws with NO ball-bearings on the cranks. I saw several of those fail, even back when I was a Sthil mechanic in the 90s -e.g the 009 and 011.

A friend of mine owns a saw shop where he only sells Husky and Echo. He has a bench full of Huskys with melted plastic crankcases. They use a small steel plate to hold the main bearings and that plate is riveted to a plastic crankcase. He's going to drop Husky soon (he says) and sell Dolmar instead.

As to Stihl? I no longer work for a Stihl dealer and don't have any friends to do either. I went to two local Stihl dealers here in Otsego County, NY and both told me that Stihl makes 2-3 models with plastic crankcases - one from China. I did not pursue the issue. I asked for a pro metal saw equivalent to my 045 Super(87cc) and the dealer gave me a price of $900 for a MS-something. So I got disgusted, left, and bought a new 64 cc Dolmar instead (for less then $600). I took their word for it, but do not have a set of parts breakdowns for all modern Stihl saws.

I don't care what they are made out of. Stihl makes it very hard to shop on-line, or research the inside of their new saws. On the other hand, Dolmar and Efco make it easy and don't keep secrets in an effort to make you go to a dealer.

It is amazing that Sthil did not go under though, after working with the Nazis during WWII. All their saw patents were taken away from them after the Germans lost the war - yet they made a comeback. There is no doubt that Lerps and Stihl have made some great saws. Lerps invented Dolmar and worked with Andreas Sthil before either guy had his own company. Now - Sthil and others want go get as involved as possible in the consumer market - and I don't blame them for that. I'm simply making statements about what I find to be the best buy for the buck - for someone that uses their saws hard. I don't find Stihl to be a best-buy from anything I've seen - at least not anymore.


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