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Re: Going to look at an older truck.


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Posted by trucker 40 on September 10, 2010 at 21:21:08 from (69.152.34.251):

In Reply to: Going to look at an older truck. posted by Blackstack on September 10, 2010 at 10:03:50:

I think I would leave it where it is.If its a 230 its a good engine,but its not very powerful.If you want to stretch it out and make a straight truck out of it you might be alright,but its wont be much of a tractor with a single axle.Speaking from a mechanics point of view,its hard to work on.It probably has the back motor mounts on the transmission,plus its hard to get to anything under there,so it is a hard job to change a clutch.Also the engine is about halfway in the cab with you,which makes parts of it nearly impossible to get to if you had to put in a head gasket,so you have to tear more of it apart to get to the middle head I think is the tough one.

Actually the number he gave you doesnt sound right.It would be a NA 230 if it was a 230.That would be on a tag thats on the engine on the drivers side.Its a long strip,fastened on the front of the engine.It has the Cubic Inches,the horsepower and the CPL number which you have to have to get any parts for it.If it doesnt have a CPL(AND IT DOES)but you cant find it,then you have to get the number off of the fuel pump,the turbo,if it has one,and an injector,and maybe they can figure out the CPL from that.
Another important thing is if it has piston oilers on the passenger side.If it has 6 little oval plates held by a 3/8ths bolt(9/16ths wrench)then it has piston oilers.If not,then its older and not possible to turn it up a lot,unless you have it machined for piston oilers.If it has piston oilers then you can pout a turbo on it.You can put a small turbo on it without oilers if I remember right.I think that might be a 250.
Back in the 1980s I worked on a 220 and it was hard to find parts for it then.A 290 which was made back in the 1970s is way more common,has a turbo,but not an aftercooler,and is easily upgraded to a 350 or 400 with an aftercooler,differnt pistons and injectors and turbo.
About a 250 is about all you are going to get out of a 220 block if I remember right.
All of this is assuming it has an 855 cubic inch engine.Cummins made other engines,even a couple of V 8s.
Just look a little more.You ought to be able to find a good cheap truck,already a tandem, unless you just want a single axle,and a lot more modern.A 290 probably gets better fuel mileage than a 220.A 400 gets better fuel mileage than a 290.Its just that the newer the engines were,up until about 2002,the better the fuel mileage was.It went down some after that.Probably because of the new fuel we have to use because its thinner.But an old 220 might not get but 3 miles to the gallon compared to a 290 at 5 miles to the gallon or a 1990s N14 that gets 7 miles to the gallon.All of those are 855 cubic inch blocks but they kept improving them.


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