Re: Farm labor shortage again questions

Posted by trucker 40 on August 06, 2010 at 18:12:20 from (69.151.63.149):

In Reply to: Re: Farm labor shortage again questions posted by Buzzman72 on August 06, 2010 at 06:07:56:

You know farm work is hard.Plus the guys that you work for arent very pleasant usually.Its like this,the good ones have help,the bad ones are always needing help and crying about it.Kids arent going to do work like that.I think its the big revolt that never happened.Mom and Dad raised the kids to refuse to work like slaves.It doesnt take Mexicans long to figure it out either Ive noticed.If they come here illegal there are lots of big companies that will hire them.They dont have to be a slave for a farmer.
If you notice its always the same people,and the same type of people crying for help.If you pay good enough you can get help.Too many people crying they want help,wont pay,cheat people on their pay,and also arent good to work for either.
Word travels fast.Good people are known,bad people are known too.
There is a bunch of people that are worthless,but there always was.I could find several jobs if there was 3 of me,all of us would be busy,and Im sick too.Lots of people,with nothing wrong with them wouldnt pick up a welding stinger or a wrench or climb up in a truck and drive it,if it was the last job on earth.I like it that way because I dont have trouble finding a job,I have trouble finding good enough pay,or a decent place to work,or an honest person to work for.
When I used to weld for a living,in the 1970s,in Kansas City,I worked at this place where nearly everybody working there was white or red or Mexican,even immigrants that were white but talked with an accent.In those days the government was wanting places like that to hire some black people.So every few months the company would hire a bunch of black guys.The longest I saw one last that started on Monday,he quit at noon Wednesday.Most of them dint make it to lunch time Monday.There were a couple that stayed,but they thought they were white,and were good guys.You could joke around with them.We called them tokens,to their face.Only one of them was a welder,and they fired him finally because he overloaded a crane and dropped a bunch of steel.Dust didnt even clear yet and he was walking out,kicking rocks,black or not.Plus one was a black woman who worked in clean and paint and ran a grinder all day.Hey you have to respect her!She tried to work as hard as the men and was nice too.But some people are not going to work where its real cold,and so much noise you have to holler all the time,Also big heavy iron is going past you on cranes all day.Plus they are after you to do more all the time.Some people just wont do it.Besides that sparks are flying everywhere,catching stuff on fire,everything is greasy and dirty,smoke in the air,and even paint fumes.Doors open in the winter,all the time.Plus while I was there one guy got crippled when beams fell on him,ended up shooting himself,others got hurt,eyes burned,skin burned,cut,broken bones,sick,and most of them were alcoholics,drinking on the job.Hey I went and worked for a farmer after that,when there were still farmers around,he paid better,fed me quite a bit,and even though it was outside,had a air conditioned cab on a tractor that I ran,which was clean compared to the steel plant.That was in 1875 or 1976.
Now the whole plant is in China.The Farmer retired long ago,and I even helped the guy that took his place haul corn a couple of years ago.
When the steel plant was last open in about 2004 they paid 15 dollars an hour and more.The farmer paid 11 dollars an hour a couple of years ago.So I dont know.You arent getting rich at either job,and it gets you down when you can just barely get by,but its better than nothing.Still not great.
Its not so much that farming is so bad,its just mostly what you have to put up with,working dawn to dusk,getting paid for maybe half of it if you only figure 5 days,which usually is 7 days and 90 hours at least or until it rains,and no such thing as a payday.Its whenever they get time to set down and figure it up.Plus all the rest of it.On top of that,if the guy is nuts,like a lot of them are,its not worth putting up with all that crap if you can find a job somewhere else.
The last farmer I helped started hollering when I got a tractor stuck,and I found a lot better job less than a week later.Some people you dont chew on if you want help.I wouldnt put up with that again for anybody.Plus there is no sense in it to start with.I never treated my help that way,even if I fired them.

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