Posted by pete 23 on June 13, 2010 at 11:40:21 from (173.87.0.80):
In Reply to: Timing a No. 46 baler?? posted by NewEnglandFarmer on June 12, 2010 at 13:48:41:
No difference to me if anyone likes or dislikes the IH line of old balers. My job was to service what my boss sold and being a IH dealer, well, we didn't sell green or off red. The history of IH balers kind of revolvled around the knotter. The 50 T used what is always referred to as the deering knotter, cuts both twines and uses tucker fingers etc. The idea behind the 45 and 55 etc was to simplify and bring cost down so average farmer could own his own baler. If one remembers the 50 T at all you know the complex mechanixm driving those heads had about as many parts as the whole rest of the baler and later balers. The old New Holland where the plunger stopped when bale was tied was also something else to see. That is when timed needle and plunger operation came into being also to simplify the machine. During this process to simplify things, I feel a lot of things got way ahead of themselves. It took about 15 years to make that knotter reliable so the average joe could get it to work. I worked on and threw a lot of bales behind the 37 model and we could kick them out of there faster than you could stack them. The mechanial parts of the rest of the machine was as good or better than any. It was always the knotter that had the poor reputation. There was a old addage IH used to claim all the time that all the other mfgs of balers were using the deering style knotter and had to pay IH for the rights to do so. Don't know if that was true or not but everyone did indeed use the same basic (deering) style knotter that IH had previously used. IH called their new knotter the McCormick knotter that tied a double dia knot, cutting only one twine and using bale movement to complete the knot removal from bill hook. When they quit making balers in North America, the imports did indeed again use the Deering style. After that I have no idea, Hesston or something like that I guess.
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