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Re: Grazing- Who does it?


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Posted by RodInNS on January 31, 2010 at 09:44:35 from (216.118.158.123):

In Reply to: Re: Grazing- Who does it? posted by Jake in NY on January 30, 2010 at 16:23:40:

What statement is incorrect??

I don't think our supply management has anything to do with this either. While it's true that we don't have 9 dollar milk like you guys have had in the past year, we don't see the bonanza when it goes the other way either. It's just a reasonably steady price. Don's not carrying a million dollars in quota either....
The economics are just as thin here on average. We're just slaves to a different master.

It would also be hard to get setup with even basic fences for less than a couple grand. Even a smaller energizer is going to run the better part of a grand and it's not hard to sink another grand into poly wire, step in posts and insulators. I'm well aware of it. I bought a lot of them...
We never spent anything on lanes and very little on water as we had a couple old flat top 300 gal coolers with dead comp's... Just strung 3/4" line on the ground. All of our perimiter fence is 2 strand Gallagher hi tensile on 2 nail insulators. It's not a fortune to set up, but it's not cheap either. We reused most of the hi tensile from when we had it setup as a 6 strand for sheep...
Number one thing you do if you have old page wire fences around is take the dozer to them...
Believe me, I've done a lot of fencing and I don't make any more work of it than I can get away with... but I still don't see much of a labor saving, if any at all.
Most of our fields are set up that we work a lane down the middle, stripping off one side, then when we get to the end we retreat back on the other side. Back fences are moved ahead every morning. Lead fences morning and evening...

I'm not saying you can't get good grass production. You can. Far better than if you just mob grazed the land all summer... which is what we used to do. I just don't see where it ever paid us. Honestly. Cows would go on grass. Milk would jump by 200 liters a trip... and at the end of the month the statement would come. Components virtually unchanged.... Then there's the crash in the fall when they go back on stored feed that seems to take all winter to recover from.
There's no shortage of data to back it up either. Here, down the road, province and nation wide...

At the end of the day a person has to ask a lot of questions and figure out how this will fit into ~their~ routine and operation, not Joel Salatin's operation... because 90% of it IS about DOGMA.

Rod


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