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Re: Yeah, that's right


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Posted by Ryan - WI on December 05, 2009 at 15:37:01 from (66.114.188.228):

In Reply to: OT/ US not wanting diesel cars????? posted by El Toro on December 05, 2009 at 07:23:42:


jdemaris said: (quoted from post at 13:08:21 12/05/09) They are pretty much correct. If US consumers really wanted a diesel car or light truck, they would of sold better the many times they have been offered. They did not sell back when diesel fuel was much cheaper than gasoline. Why would any company take a chance on them now?

It appears to me that the US consumer wants a diesel car ONLY if cheap, real fast, gets fantastic fuel mileage, and starts and runs like a gas-powered car.

There were many excellent little diesel cars and light trucks offered over the years and none sold well.

Jeep sold a 1968 version with a Perkins.

Jeep sold a diesel version Cherokee in 2007.

Mazda sold a B2200 truck with a Perkins diesel 1980.

International sold a Scout 1977-1980 with a Nissan (turbo and non-turbo).

Dodge sold a 1/2 ton truck with a Misubishi 6 cylinder diesel in 1979.

Checker sold a diesel car in 1968 that was Perkins powered.

Ford sold Escorts, Ranger trucks, etc. with Mazda/Perkins and Misubishi diesels (turbo and non-turbo).

Chevy sold Chevettes, LUVs, and S10s with Isuzu diesels. Also sold the many 1/2 trucks with 6.2 diesels.

I could also mention the many GM diesel cars in the 70s with the awful Oldsmobile diesels - but they were just that - awful.

Dodge sold little mini Ram trucks with Misubishi turbo and non-diesels.

Isuzu sold cars and mini-trucks with diesels, turbo and non-turbo.

I still have and drive many, including two 1981 diesel Chevettes, a 1985 4WD diesel Isuzu PUP mini-truck, a diesel ford Ranger, and an army of 6.2 diesel Chevy Blazers and trucks.


Um, a lot of us who are going out and buying new cars right now weren't alive let alone driving for a lot of those. Capitalism is based on supply and demand. Why would a company put tons of money into research, production, marketing etc. if they don't need to? If a consumer wants a diesel but one is not available, they will buy a gas model instead. To a car manufacturer that is fine with them. If they were choosing not to buy a vehicle at all, that would be a problem worth fixing.

My wife and I own a 2000 VW Beetle TDI that gets around 50 mpg all day long. When we went out a year and a half ago to buy me a commuter car it would have been nice to find a 4 door commuter (like a Jetta) with a diesel option. Unfortunately none were available within our price range. We bought a gas model 5 spd instead. To a car manufacturer, no harm no foul. We bought a car didn't we?


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