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Re: who killed the electic car !


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Posted by paul on December 04, 2009 at 07:18:48 from (76.77.197.242):

In Reply to: who killed the electic car ! posted by J Heitkemper on December 04, 2009 at 05:36:34:

This country is in trouble.

A coal electric plant up here in the midwest was killed off - too much uncertainty about the whole Cap & Trade thing.....

We are told that electricity is the answer to cars - but where will the electricity come from? Coal is dead, no one wants a nuke plant in their back yard, no one has figured out what to do with nuke wastes that are dangerous for a few 100,000 years. coal which we have a lot of we can't use. Wind turbines only work when the wind blows, so can only be good for 1/3 of our power requirements - and only if we build a better electric grid to balance the power production with the power generation areas....

We are told natural gas is the answer, we have a lot & we keep finding more. But - several grain drying outfits this year were told to shut off their corn driers, as people need furnaces now with the cold wave, don't have enough gas flow in the pipelines to service both.

Ethanol & soybean oil help to stretch gasoline & diesel supplies; but oh no that causes food price to go up & oil producing states won't allow it. EPA put off upping the ethanol content again this week, because of the oil states blocking it.

Powers that be want to put up a high line transmission power line a few dozen miles north of me. Heck, I wouldn't want it in my back yard either, but I do like having electricity. It can't go through towns - people oppose that. So can't use existing right of ways as they all go through towns. Can't go through unoccupied waste land - don't dare touch wetlands, they identify every eagle nest & need to stay far far away from those. Can't go over the river bluffs, it destroys the view the rich folk have from their mcmanshions. Only people you can bother any more with electric lines or pipelines is farmers - take away crop land.


What will we do in 20 years?

We are in trouble. We are going backwards in the USA.

What do people think we will be using in 20 years?

Electric car technology will be here if it works. It's easy to design & ramp up production of such a thing in 5 years - if it can stand on it's own in the marketplace. If their technology fits the marketplace, it _won't_ be held back - someone will pick up on it. The problem with the electric vehicle is there won't be any electricity to feed it - no place to plug it in. The car could be in showrooms in 3-5 years easy if it worked.

What we _can't_ do is build infrastructure in a short period of time. Electric power plants (whatever fuel they use), power lines, pipelines - they take decades to plan & bring online.

We are in serious trouble - not from conspiricies about electric cars, but from sitting on our rears & not planning ahead.

Congress & president fuddle around throwing money here & there - auto makers, banks, building trades, stimulus checks to us. Phhht.

Build us some infrastructure - intrest, dollar value, labor, and goods (steel, concrete, etc) are generally low priced right now. Have the govt build some power plants, electric dams, pwer lines, pipelines. Build us a _future_ and use that construction as a stimulus package - it will fire up our ecconomy, it will give our small businesses a future to look forward to.

But - no. They spend time on trying to tax insurance companies enough to fund national health care, dribble out small checks to people and big checks to big business for nothing, and wring their hands on how to make the other party look bad while doing nothing to make their own party look good.

Where are we gonna be in 20 years?

--->Paul


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