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Re: O.T. Teachers


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Posted by Paul in MN on May 16, 2009 at 09:50:08 from (71.210.140.166):

In Reply to: Re: O.T. Teachers posted by northener on May 16, 2009 at 06:12:39:

Up North....

Wow, I sure think you got your "facts" wrong. Of course, maybe I got left by the wayside here in the midwest. I was a high school physics and biology teacher for 32 years, and a union member for most of those years, and union treasurer for 1 year. I was Dept head for 13 years and was involved in hiring many young teachers. None of your numbers approach any kind of reality we know of in Minnesota. Our union was always on the brink of funding crisis and only one full time employee...the secretary. Our union president was also working half time as a classroom teacher, and drawing half salary for teaching and getting the other half from union dues. Most of the new teachers were not even offered a full time contract, but just enough so the school district did not have to provide insurance benefits. These were bright young people who had a boat load of college loans and were supposed to provide almost full time service for less than 30 K per year. They could pick up an extra 1 to 2 K by being a coach for some of the sports teams...many hours of obligation afterschool and weekends. There was almost no time flexibility, you were obligated to the school calendar or got docked full pay plus 100% benefits as calculated by the district office. I applied for a "personal day" as per contract in 1970 for the day of our wedding and was refused by district office "because I could have gotten married in the summer".

When I retired 10 years ago, there was no place on the salary schedule where any teacher broke the 60K per year mark, even with a PhD and 30 years experience. Since that time, class sizes have dramatically increased, and salaries have not increased by even 50% of the rate that Social Security has increased, (commonly about 1.5%/year and some years no increase at all to keep even with the inflation numbers). And then the costs of increase of the medical insurance have been taken from the negotiations package and been assessed directly to the teacher. So the teacher takes home less $$ each succeeding year.

As to some teacher getting 94K for an annual contract....it might be possible in a high class suburb in NY or Connecticut, but it sure isn't a common number anywhere else in the US. There are some private high schools where the tuition is as high as a private college, and maybe they can afford those salaries, but not in the public school systems.

And the Union owning a pro sports team with their "billions"???? What are you smoking???

Paul in MN


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