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Re: 20,000 gvw trailer do you need CDL


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Posted by trucker40 on February 13, 2009 at 17:20:45 from (70.242.76.220):

In Reply to: 20,000 gvw trailer do you need CDL posted by ducks1 on February 13, 2009 at 05:57:58:

I read all of the others answers and they were right.If you can haul more than 26001 lbs(which basically means you have a trailer with dual wheels and 2 axles)you need a CDL.Im not sure what other combinations like a gooseneck,or 4 single wheel axles,but if you are rated to haul more than 26001 lbs they are going to make you have a CDL everywhere.If you look at their side of it,its kind of necessary because there are people that haul stuff around way overloaded and this can cause a wreck,I saw a farmer with a dually ton truck,a gooseneck hay trailer for big round bales, hauling hay on the interstate,pulling a big hill,automatic transmission got hot,caught the whole thing on fire and closed the road until fire trucks came and put it out.So another problem is if you have to stop all of that weight you might be alright for a while if you have good new brake linings,then as you use this thing way overloaded for a few trips you might not be able to stop very well or at all.Then the rest of it is pure revenue.They will a lot of times try to find things to write tickets for,or at least give you a hard time.The FMSCA are the ones that you should ask,maybe find the laws and print them out from the FMSCA website.Not always,but most usually the state goes along with their laws.The state can be more strict,and have different laws for different roads.If you run on the Interstate thats the FMSCA laws and State laws which should agree for the most part,off the Interstate its State laws which could be less or more strict depending on the road you want to use.As far as hauling something is concerned,as long as whats on the truck is yours,and you are below 26000,I think you would be alright as long as you arent over the rating of your tires,or over the weight rating of any of your axles.Now say you haul a pallet for your neighbor.Just buy it,haul it home,then sell it to him.When a DOT man asks for your bills of what you are hauling,and it has your name on it,technically you own it.Whats to say as soon as you got home you decided you didnt need it any more and sold it to your neighbor?As long as you arent crossing the same scales all the time with different pallets of stuff to where they are going to know you are commercial,you might be alright.Now you might want to ask somebody besides me,but I have been told that was how to do it.Basically you dont want anything on your truck that you dont own,and you might want to carry proof that you own it to keep from having trouble.


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