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Re: O/T Tax System Explained in Beer


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Posted by RodInNS on October 01, 2008 at 06:33:27 from (216.118.158.123):

In Reply to: Re: O/T Tax System Explained in Beer posted by IndianaRed on October 01, 2008 at 05:41:15:

Again, it'd be nice if you could get over putting words in my mouth.

'Distribution', in the broad context that I used the term has nothing to do with anyone making any decision of how wealth comes to be in the hands of this person or that person. It was used simply in the context of showing the disparity from one extreme to the other... and I beleive that's the context that most people would take from what I said.
Dunno what more I can say to that.

Beyond that, I don't know why you think I'm envious of anyone that has more than me. That doesn't bother me. I make my own choices and live with them, and if I don't like them I can make other choices.

I'm more preturbed by the idea that some, including you, who seem to believe that the rich are the backbone of this country... and that we couldn't function without them, and that they operate under the same rules as the rest of us.
When you get down to looking at the facts of the matter, they don't operate under the same rules as the rest of us. Many companies are now so big, and so powerful that they are beyond the power of most governments to regulate them... and yes, I do believe that they do need to be regulated TO SOME DEGREE. If they're not, you'll have no environment left, no labor laws, no standard of living and no nothing else because they'll have near total control.
Mabey you don't read much history, or mabey you don't come from an area with a long industrial heritage... but I do read some history, and I come from an area where coal was king and that coal fed coke ovens that powered steel mills through two world wars and supplied the steel for a good part of Canada and the british empire at the time. It employed tens of thousands of men, and the ones in the mines in particular were treated not so different to the folks that used to pick your cotton...
They were owned by the company in all but a certificate. That's what unrestrained, free enterprise will give you, and it certainly did here. They were slaves and they had little choice in the matter until they walked out enmasse and shut the thing down, at which point the company set out to starve them, which brough on a riot where men were murdered by armed company security.
That's one example of operating without regulations.
Standard oil was another... and actually, Standard was the impetus for a good big pile of regulations that exist in the US today with the Sherman Antitrust act being the main one.

You are right though... you won't convince me, and I won't convince you of anythign different.

Rod


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