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Re: Re: Re: Buying a used tractor?


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Posted by RMD on February 18, 2000 at 20:03:50 from (206.83.87.56):

In Reply to: Re: Re: Buying a used tractor? posted by Burrhead on February 18, 2000 at 12:32:49:

Hey, Burrhead (or is it butthead?) You ain't talking to a yuppie or a girly man here. I grew up working on dairy farms with 1950 -early 60's era row crop AC's, Olivers and Farmalls. I don't live on a farm anymore, just have 15 acres of woods.

I stick by what I said about loaders screwing up most small 2WD farm tractors. I'm sure that the guy with the initial question isn't looking for a lightweight manure loader with a trip bucket. Everybody wants hydraulic buckets, down pressure and to move snow and dirt. Most 9Ns 8Ns TE/TO Fergusons and other lightweight ag wide fronts get beat to death with the loader's weight. The 600 and later Fords and MF's are a little sturdier.

Having been used to field tractors, I was amazed at how pitiful the traction is on the Ford style machine. Had a 600 diesel with a Ford loader and even with the tires fully loaded and wheel weights (1100 lbs) off a 800, it couldn't back up an incline with a full bucket on dry ground and was totally useless in snow (yes with chains on). Yea, hang another 1000 lbs off the three point and you might get around. I've replaced that with a AC D-12 with a AC L-99 loader. The AC has better traction than the Ford even though it only has 300 lbs of wheel weights and no ballast in the tires. However, the loader weight is hell on the lightweight ag-type wide front, and even has caused cracks in the wheels radiating from the lug holes. I love the machine, but the steering is miserable, especially when you're turned around backing a wagon or trailer, or working the hydraulics and only have one hand on the wheel. If you know so much, why don't you tell me where to get an after market power steering for a D-12? (Yea I know you can get them for an M or H, but I don't have an M or H and the guy asking the initial question probably ain't buying an M or H either).

A loader is handy, but most utility size 2WD ag tractors are better machines without them. 4WD and industrial models are better suited to loaders. If the guy is looking to buy one, he ought to be aware of the limitations.


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