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Re: $$ John Deere vs. Farmall $$


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Posted by Bob Kerr on January 27, 2008 at 08:31:29 from (64.12.117.74):

In Reply to: $$ John Deere vs. Farmall $$ posted by Dalton S. on January 26, 2008 at 19:51:24:

Everyone below has good points, but let me add this. My Dad who is a fantastic mechanic and worked on both Deere and IH and he never understood why John Deere kept using a horizontal engine LONG after every company quit making them. There were a lot of companys in the early days that used horizontal cylinders and almost all of them quit doing that because of the un even cylinder wall wear. The weight of the piston wears the bottom of the cylinder faster that the top and you end up with egg shaped cylinders. Some of the early ones I can think of were the very first IHs, Rumleys, Averys, Hart Parr and I am sure there are others I just cant think of them right now, but most all early tractors were horizontal. All of those companys but IH went to vertical cylinder engines in the late 20s Except J Deere untill they finally caved in after the 730s. IH went to vertical about 1917 with the 8-16 except on the Mogul which went to 1919. Rumley changed over in the last ones they built in the late twenties or early 30s but those tractors were so outdated when they were built there weren"t many sold as everyone was going with row crops. Most of them were sold to threshing outfits that were die hard Rumley men and who didn"t do much else with them but belt work. My honest opinion is that people do like the putt putt noise, it does have a calming effect when running at low speed. Try this sometime at a show, set a lawn chair next to an running oil field engine or a bigger idling JD or Rumley oil pull and see how long you can stay awake! Doesn"t work so good sitting next to a running four cylinder.


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