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Posted by jdemaris on December 20, 2006 at 12:39:22 from (66.218.11.94):
In Reply to: U.S./Canada Border crossing.. How It Is Here posted by migraine on December 19, 2006 at 21:44:20:
This is somewhat in response to what Bill of TN stated. I think, to some degree, there has been plenty enough tension between the US and Canada to stay apart and not entirely trust each other - at least at the government level. Canada sided with the Confederacy during the Civil War - and the Confederacy lost. Shortly after, there were attacks on border and military posts in Canada - coming from New York State. These attacks went on from 1866 to 1870 - done mostly by a bunch of drunken "Fenian" Irishmen - who were former US military. One of them even built a submarine in New Jersey - but it wasn't used in the Canada attacks. They'd congregate in border-areas of New York, do some serious drinking, grab their guns and then sneak across the St. Lawrence River and attack in the dark. Many in Canada got pretty ticked off - especially since the US president Andrew Johnson was blamed for letting it happen - maybe even helping a bit as "pay back." One of the US heroes who was a Fenian commander - John O'Niell - never got in trouble for it, and later moved to Nebraska where now a place is named after him - i.e. town or city of O'Niell. Here is the US, this isn't taught in history classes - but it has in parts of Canada. My wife got her Master's Degree in Toronto early 80s and heard much about it. There was also a more recent event when a new Canadian prime-minister seized US businesses that were on Canadian soil - with the complaint that the United States was buying up too much of Canada. I can't recall who he was, but it was late 1950s I believe. I wish the US would start doing that now. How much of the US is owned by China, India, Japan, etc.? There's also the legal differences between US and Canada. Canada allows residents to go party with Castro in Cuba. But . . . US residents are not. Because of differences in immigration laws - it's alleged to be easier for terrorists to get into Canada first - and then work their way into the US. Then, you've got the infighting in Canada - historically and now. My g-g-g-g-grandmother is somewhat a hero (heroin?) in some Canadian history books for leading Acadians out of exile from Port Royal - into either Québec or into the Louisiana, U.S. to become "Cajuns." Seems many French people were held in slavery by the Scottish and British - and the enslaved Acadians were often hated by other Canadians for not standing up and fighting. And now in Canada - the English versus the French? Don't know how that's going to turn out. But - I've met many friendly people in English-speaking Canada, and a few unfriendly ones in the French areas. I suspect the latter because I speak pretty bad French - and mine is from France, not French-Canada. Also found out this summer- when my Ford truck broke down in London, Ontario- Canada really is a different country. I couldn't rent a truck and drive home - I wasn't allowed to cross the border. Anyway - I'm not bashing Canada at all. Just mentioning a few things that some U.S. people might not have heard before.
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