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Re: Yes - it is the best buy, by far


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Posted by Jon Hagen on October 21, 2006 at 17:28:09 from (69.26.30.100):

In Reply to: Re: Yes - it is the best buy, by far posted by jdemaris on October 21, 2006 at 16:18:46:

I took your comment that AGM batteries being very sensative to overcharge and failing where a flooded battery did not means that you suspected that they failed because they were overcharged.
I can agree that a conventional design AGM battery with the multi square plate/seperator design not handling repeated deep dischargs may be true. That type of battery sees a lot of swell/shrink flexing and destructive movement of the plates during a deep discharge/charge cycle which can shorten their life.
What I am refering to is the spiral cell AGM design used by Optima(Johnson controls) and Exide in their spiral cell AGM batteries. Each cell has one large positive plate/seperator and negative plate rolled up like a roll of newspaper. This tightly wound design does not suffer from the plate material shedding,seperator breakage or cell connector failure of a conventional design. Even the non deep cycle spiral cell batteries will stand a dozen or more full deep discharge/charge cycles without obvious damage,while a conventional flooded cranking battery usually sees enough damage after one deep cycle(stone cold dead) from sulfation and plate shedding to reduce it's capacity and usually total failure from a shorted cell or broken cell connectors after 2-3 very deep discharges.
My comment is that I feel your experience with what I suspect was conventional design AGM batteries in a solar charged storage unit,unfairly casts a bad image of the Spiral cell AGM in a engine starting situation. I have found them to be far superior to any flooded cell battery in a engine starting situation with very long life and no need for maintenence to control corrosion of cables,battery boxes etc.

Both Optima and Exide also make marine hybrid cranking/deep cycle and true deep cycle versions of the Spiral cell AGM batteries to compliment the cranking batteries.



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