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Re: Trailer towing limits??


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Posted by Bret4207 on April 01, 2006 at 06:50:54 from (207.42.20.130):

In Reply to: Re: Trailer towing limits?? posted by john in la on March 31, 2006 at 19:53:15:

John- I believe the ICC# has pretty much been superceded by the DOT#. We don't even look for an IC# anymore.

I agree with most of what you wrote but the big point for these guys to remember is ARE YOU A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE? Uncle Petes RV may have a GVWR of 40,000 lbs but until he starts hauling fruit back from Florida he isn't a CMV and thats all their is to it.

Now Farmer Joe, (like me), he has a 1/2 pick up with a GVWR of say, 6600 lbs, and a dual axle trailer with a GVWR of 5,000 lbs. The Combined GVWR is in excess of 10,000 lbs and he makes $$ off the farm (not much, yeah I know the story). He IS commercial.

Joe the landscaper has a 3/4 ton truck and a flatbed, GVWR of 8800 and 11,000. He's commercial, he needs a regular license.

Jim the landscaper has a truck with a GVWR of 12,000 and a 20,000 lbs trailer. He needs a class A because the CGVWR exceeds 26,000 lbs and the trailer exceeds 10,000 lbs. He can have them registered for 5 and 8,000 lbs respectivly but it's the CGVWR we go by.

I'll throw a wrench in the gears to illustrate where some guys get in trouble- Fred the foundation guy has a 3/4 ton truck, GVWR 8800 lbs. He's not a CMV. Lets say the truck weighs in at 5,000 lbs bare. Fred's got one of theose neat little dump boxes on the truck. He goes to the pit and gets a nice big load of stone. Ooops, here's Tpr Martin driving down the road fat, dumb and happy. I pull Fred over and notice the weigh slip from the quarry says he grossed at 11,980 lbs. I scale him and he weighs 11,950 on my scales. He is now a CMV becasue his actual weight is over 10,000 lbs. He's also going to be over registered weight, probably over his tire weight rating, maybe breaking some springs, duals touching at the innner sidewall, no fire extinguisher, triangles or flares, etc, etc, etc. Am I out to ruin Freds day? Nope. Do you want Fred following your teenage daughter down the road in her Neon and coming to a stop sign? I doubt it. Should Ol'Fred have put just a little more thougth into this? You tell me. Is Fred gonna swear up and down I had it in for him? You betcha! Welcome to my world.


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