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Re: Re: Re: Re: over running clutch, use with live


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Posted by paul on April 29, 2004 at 08:01:39 from (209.23.145.78):

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: over running clutch, use with live or posted by Tom in TN on April 26, 2004 at 23:17:13:

Oh. I see.

For your last issue - neutral doesn't count.
Your rear axle is not engaged, so live/ not live
does not matter. This is only an issue when
the tractor is in a gear. On a transmission or
non-live pto there is only one clutch to do 2
jobs, so _when_ you are in gear _and_ you
are using the pto, any use of the clutch will
stop _both_ actions. If either your tranny or the
pto lever is in neutral, then it is no longer a
part of the system & will not be affected. but if
_both_ pto & tranny are in a gear, then they are
pysically locked together & when one is
turning, both are. If one is standing still, they
both are standing still. But this only applies if
you have both the pto lever & the gearshift
lever _in gear_.

The over-running coupler feature of a live pto
only shows up when you _use_ the pto clutch,
push it in. At that point, the tractor axle & the
pto shaft are no longer connected to each
other, and can be doing different things. You
are able to keep one in gear & active, while
putting the other in or out of gear, or stopping it
from turning.


In your case, you get to the hill, leave
everything in gear, and cut the throttle back.
The mower continues to drive your tractor,
because you have not released the pto clutch.
Your add-on over-running clutch will kick in in
this case. Kind of an odd quirk in the way you
are using this. I understand it, but boy that
really doesn't come up for 99% of the people.
Sounds like your hill is an accident waitting to
happen.

Live pto means there are 2 clutches on your
tractor, one for the transmission, one for the
pto. Non-live or transmission pto means you
have only one clutch for both operations.

You are using your over running coupler as a
ratchet for rapid engine deacceleration with no
clutch use at all, which is kind of an odd
situation that doesn't come up too often. Well,
actually people use them that way for the
newer hyd braking ptos which try to stop the
pto too fast & break on a heavy load. Same
idea.

--->Paul


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