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Re: Re: Re: Re: Wee killer question.


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Posted by paul on September 17, 2003 at 21:49:32 from (209.23.145.69):

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Wee killer question. posted by CNKS on September 17, 2003 at 20:05:57:

To beat this thread into the ground: :)

Glysophate lost it's patent a couple years ago
(time up). Monsanto invented it & still sells it
as Round Up. there are many different
variations of Round Up, with different
surficants, different additives & helpers for
various conditions. The 'home & garden'
versions tend to be more watered down, and
have less vigorous additives, and tend to be
put in smaller bottles and costs signifigantly
more per active ingrediant.

Several other companies, including some in
China, make glyphosate (or, buy it in bulk from
Monsanto). They package it with their own
additives to allow it to soak into plants, stick to
plants, and break down the plant wax quicker.
These are close to 1/2 the price of 'about the
same thing' from Monsanto. Monsanto offers
some quicker action (rainsafe in an hour or
so) and respraying garentees if weeds come
back for many of their product lines - you pay
for this, and might not need it. There are even
versions that are safe for spraying directly into
water.

The cheapest is just straight glysophate
(about a 50% active ingrediant) with no
additives. Sold in a 20 gallon container, can
be just under $20 a gallon. Then you buy the
additives you need for your application, and go
from there. It's cheaper to make tank mixes if
you buy all the parts in bulk.

That's a long way to say that there are many
different kinds of glysophate. It's just like
motor oil - all comes out of the same hole in
the ground, and refined the same way. But
each company has it's own 'additive package'
to make it their own oil.

For a use like this, where one is mixing up
their own spray, you might as well go to a farm
supply place & buy a 2.5 gallon jug of generic
glysophate - 41-50% active, for about $30 a
gallon. The little gallon or less jug that says
'Roundup' on it will be about double the cost
per active ingrediant. Farmers have found that
they can increase the rate by 25% and get
better coverage with the generic stuff, instead
of paying extra & jumping through the hoops of
Monsanto's branded Roundup & garentees. At
least around here.

--->Paul


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