Re: What tractors were notorious for having problems ?

Posted by AG in IN on April 07, 2003 at 07:58:43 from (64.12.96.236):

In Reply to: What tractors were notorious for having problems ? posted by Alberta Mike on April 06, 2003 at 06:02:42:

I'm an IH man, but have run many brands, and will be the first to point out IH's shortcomings. IH 460-560 had rear end problems, but if you fix them once, they seem to last forever. Glow plugs can be a pain in the you-know-what, mainly because the need to be replaced after 40 years. Our 1206, 1256, and 1456 have too much power for the rear end, the 1456 being heavier, but we still tore it out. My theory is it is radial tires (20.8's on the 1456) that have caused us more problems than anything. They don't slip as easily and have too much bite, but this is my opinion. But those dry sleeve engines can be turned up a heckuva lot more than stock and not have engine problems. Our 806 has approx. 20000 hours, overhauled once, 1206, 1256, 1456 all well over 7000, no engine problems. Our 1456 is our newest tractor on our 500 acres and 150 sow farrow to finish hog farm.
Case S and SC would do alot of work. But the cast iron pistons would knock like a bear if you really pulled it, which wasn't really all that much. I'm not sure off the top of my head, but a 1030 took about 100 c.i. more than anyone else to hit 100+ h.p..
A neighbor has a 4020 and 4000 J.D.'s. The 4020 is a gas and it is the biggest piece of crap I've ever run when it runs. The 4000 is not far behind it. I hear the later 4020 D's are good machines, but never have run one.
Little Allis's are good machines, but from all I hear, the 7060-7080's blow engine after engine.
Can't really speak for anything else.
The truth is that every manufacturer has their share of "lemons".
Almost every tractor/combine/piece of machinery has a fault or weakness to it. It is my opinion that most older tractors are superior than new ones, at least in the sense that a normal person can work on them, and you don't need a "technician". Kinda like older cars and trucks. I guess I'm a fan of simpler times! Many problems are from improper maintenance and misuse than poor design. I don't know how many neighbors put universal rear end oil in their IH's and have rear end problems about 500-1000 hrs. later. It's more than a handful. Change your oil when the book says, preferrably sooner, and use the proper oil for the machine.
My thoughts, AG.

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