Re: Re: difference in Ford 800 and 9N

Posted by Truck on March 02, 2003 at 12:42:03 from (152.163.188.71):

In Reply to: Re: difference in Ford 800 and 9N posted by Delbert on March 01, 2003 at 15:54:30:

An 800 is not a whole lot different from a Jubilee.All the major dimensions and castings are pretty much the same from my understanding. There are some minor hydraulic differences, and the motor was upgraded to 172 CID from 134. The transmission may be the same, or it might have a five speed in it.

As far as the original question goes, go out to your 9N and look underneath the rear end and transmission for subframe mounting holes. There aren't even the holes that an 8N has for a swinging drawbar. This means you will need to fabricate plates that attach using the bolts that are already there, such as the trumpet to axle center section bolts.
If you look at a hundred series, you will see right behind the engine up high two heavy bosses with pretty good sized threaded holes in them. These holes may be used by the backhoe subframe to tie the tractor to the hoe. Again, they do not exist on the 9N. Simply drilling and threading the casting will be a gamble as you most likely do not have enough iron in that area for the stress.
The front axle support on the 800 is marginal for a loader or hoe use, and the 9N one is not as strong.An Industrial front end is a large casting, with a much stronger axle built to take the loads of a hoe or heavy bucket use. I wish I had the industrial front end under my hundred series, as I wouldn't be buying $500 worth of parts to have a front axle again.

The length of a 9N is substantially less than a hundred series, when measured between the front axle mounting to the rear fender mounting holes. If the subframe was designed for the hundred series, serious fabbing will be needed.

Can it be done? Maybe. Will it be useable when you finish? Maybe. Will it break in half during use? Maybe. Especially if you have gnarly rocky ground and don't take it easy. If you have sand and soft dirt to dig, it might just work, if you can keep the front end on the ground during transport.
I was only able to move my small three point hoe with my 2N by dragging it on the ground and steering with my brakes. I never actually used it.I sold it and bought a real dedicated backhoe loader.But I still would like to get a nice little Woods hoe for one of my smaller tractors. The big machine is too big to move from job to job for my trucks.
Sorry about the length..
Truck

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