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Re: Detergent and Non-detergent Oils


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Posted by Bob Kerr on February 22, 2002 at 10:34:42 from (64.12.101.179):

In Reply to: Detergent and Non-detergent Oils posted by Iduuno? on February 18, 2002 at 21:45:31:

Verns post hit the nail on the head. If your tractor has an oil filter use detergent, If no filter, use non detergent. If you notice most tractors built before the 30s it is easy to remove the oil pan and,OR it has hand holes in the block with removeable covers so it is easy to clean out the pan.IHC first used filters in 1929 and they were a cloth and felt sock put over a spring, then they went to a washable metal filter, then paper types.Most companys back then recommeded cleaning out the pans once or twice a year. Filters extented the oil change intervals by trapping the crud that would get into the engine.Non detergent oil lets that crud settle out during the overnight or when it wasn't being used.Once settled the crud stayed put in the pan bottom.Most of those real old engines only ran 6-10 lbs pressure so there wasn't a lot of volumn flowing to stir things off the pan bottom, plus the pick up is a few inches off the pan bottom. Before filters most engines had as little as 500 mile oil change intervals on cars, and 10-15 hours on tractors.Detergent oil and filter combinations allowed oil change intervals to be increased and lowered operation cost and down time, (BUT, using detergent oil in an engine without a filter will not increase the change interval!)That is why everone started using detergent back in the 50s to lower oil costs and keep the machine running longer. You can use what you feel you need to use, and if you have a "newer" antique like in the 40s-50s 60s go with detergent.They all used filters at that point anyway. If the detergent cleans up behind the rings and it starts smoking, it most likly needs rings anyway. As far as what weight oil to use, go with what the manual calls for for the climate you are using it in whether it is detergent oil or not.


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