Re: Re: When someone wont get off your property..?

Posted by Hal/WA on February 18, 2002 at 12:25:12 from (208.8.194.30):

In Reply to: Re: When someone wont get off your property..? posted by Mike Christian on February 17, 2002 at 21:14:44:

I wonder if there is something more to this story? It would seem that the driver of the Taurus over-reacted extremely, if the motorcycle rider did nothing but pass on an unlicensed vehicle. I would think that the police should have taken a formal report of the incident, if for no other reason than to document the Taurus driver's inappropriate actions. Is the Taurus driver a neighbor or just passing through? Have there been other incidents like this involving the Taurus driver?

Road rage is one of the dangers out there all the time. There are people who will over-react and may be very dangerous to others on the road, especially if their anger is directed to someone on a motorcycle, or other poorly protected vehicle. However, they usually want to be anonymous and will take off rather than talk to police, because they know they are in the wrong. That is what bothers me about this situation. The guy stuck around and waited for the police to arrive. Did he just sit in his car and wait peacably? Is there something more to this story?

Luckily, no one was injured. It could have ended in tragedy for either side. But nobody loosed the dogs or brought out the guns or started a fist fight. That is probably why no one went to jail. It would be interesting to know what the officer heard from and told the Taurus driver. Most officers are pretty good at arriving at the truth.

The original question was what do you do when someone just will not leave your property when asked to. It depends entirely on what the "trespasser" is doing. If the trespasser is just sitting there, not harming anyone, or blocking the way out, the appropriate response would be to call and then just wait for police. On the other hand, if the trespasser is threatening your life or the lives of others, AND has the apparent means to carry out his threats, AND you believe he is about to carry out the threats, you MAY be justified in using any means, including deadly force to defend yourself. This is a judgment call and what you decided to do may change your life forever. Your response must be REASONABLE, whatever a judge might later decided that means. My advice to anyone would be do not react any more than you are forced to. In most cases it is not worth it, if you are just protecting property.

There will always be jerks out there. Do what you can to avoid them and when that can not be avoided, do what you can to not get yourself in trouble or danger from a confrontation. As the old Sarge always said, "be careful out there, guys."

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