Posted by oldtanker on October 12, 2020 at 06:13:44 from (66.228.255.203):
In Reply to: allis roto baler ? posted by swindave on October 09, 2020 at 07:18:28:
Kinda funny how much misinformation is out there in the roto VS square baler argument. The Roto Baler hit the market in 1947. But New Holland started production of a towed square baler in 1940. IH introduced a towed square baler in 1945. So myth one is busted. myth 2 is the fact that compared to the square baler the Roto Baler never sold well. Just New Holland sales alone in one year exceeded the total production of both runs of the Roto Baler. Heck total sales of Roto Balers was a meager 75,000 units. And that was back when there were 15 or so million farms. And only 75,000 (actually less because of repeat customers) farms had Roto Balers? Now does that mean that there were 14,925,000 farmers who were too stupid to buy a roto baler? Or does that mean that there were only 75,000 who could either A: only afford a roto baler or B: were gullible enough to own one? Heck IIRC New Holland sold more square balers in either 1952 or 53 than total roto baler sale from 1947 to 1960. SO there was an issue someplace that made the roto baler a 2nd cousin.
The actual issue at hand was the perception that square bales were more efficient both in labor and in storage. Most farms back in that day had at least some livestock. Weather it was for personal use or to market. And most farms needed to store that hay inside if possible. Made for a lot of labor which as someone pointed out farmers back then expected that. Steps in making and storing hay. 1, cutting, 2 raking , 3 baling, 4 stacking on a wagon either behind the baler or picking off the ground, 5 unloading, 6 stacking. The big guys back then hired help for that. Took a lot of manpower to put up enough hay in the upper regions of the US to feed 20-40 dairy cows or a couple hundred head of beef over winter.
The real funny part is neither New Holland nor AC invented those balers. IN both cases they bought the rights and then developed them into a marketable machine.
In the end the roto baler concept died in 1960 when the last one rolled off the line. You can still buy a new square baler for small squares. The round bale is still alive too but is really a different animal.
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