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Posted by Bob Kerr on December 06, 2001 at 20:54:13 from (205.188.201.196):
In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What will be the worst tractor posted by dave g on December 03, 2001 at 12:02:13:
I am glad to hear some engineers are like you guys! I just hope you can convince the guys who are going over board on things that it is really not nessecary and is only compounding lack of simplicity on the big picture. The way I see it is, "the more gadgets there are , the more gadgets there are to fix." I have a good friend who is an elecrical systems engineer who worked for several large companys like Cat and Cummins on things like hydroelectical control and engine emission controls. He like to come out to the farm and "analize" my lastest "toy" like a Hit and Miss engine, or my steam boat, or one of my pre 1935 tractors. I can see the "gears turning in his head" when he looks them over and watches them run. Another time I took 2 1907 Olds Hit and miss engines to the Oldsmobile centennial celebration in Lansing MI back in 1997. I had a group of current(at the time) Oldsmobile engineers stop and try to figure out what those machines were for. One even had to ask! I just pointed at the spark plug and said "you tell me!" Only one of those guys said an engine! When I said they were gasoline engines that the company they work for made ,the look on their faces was priceless! Then you should have seen the study session begin! I just told them that they need to forget everything they learned in school about more stuff is better,and just figure out a simple way to do the job as efficiently and with all regard for easy and inexpensive service as possible. It will make for a good reliable product and if easy to work on ,if anything should ever go wrong, the customer will have a better view of the company and buy another machine in the future.It also keeps the bean counters happy.(less cost of manufacture/ higher profitablity/ recurrent sales and might just lead to bonuses! As for me ,I have worked on lots of over engineered cars, trucks and the likes, and when I decided to get an old tractor I decided to get one as simple as possible because I was getting burned out on keeping up with the latest overcomplicated mindblowing things they were putting on vehicles. I got a tractor with gravity flow fuel so I wouldn't have to worry about fuelpumps, steel wheels so I wouldn't have to buy more tires, hand crank so I wouldn't have to fool with batterys generators and starters, mouse chewed wiring, only 4 wires going to just the spark plugs, thermosyphon cooling so I wouldn't have to screw around with leaking waterpumps etc. After working with the IH 10-20 and others like it, sometimes I wonder why all these $300,000+ tractors are really necessary. I guess everyone wants to get out of the field in a few days instead of a few weeks. By the way my Grandpa always said the worst tractor he ever had or worked with was an old Fordson(built in the 20s).They spent more time working on that tractor than they spent running it.Constanty breaking down and always hard to start. The best one he ever had was his IH M. but he also had an 35 F-20 he used daily until he leased the farm out in the late 60s and never said anything bad about it.All the tractors he had , he bought brand new.
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