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Re: Re: Re: Re: Powerstroke or Cummins?
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Posted by RGrant on November 13, 2001 at 13:34:26 from (204.131.89.248):
In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Powerstroke or Cummins? posted by mike on November 12, 2001 at 19:44:20:
Let me address your comments in a fair, and logical manner... Maybe you are right, you may not see too many cummins engines in big rigs anymore, but you see even fewer V8's. Why is that I wonder? Probably because a V8 diesel is good for tooling around town, lasting longer than a gas engine, and pulling heavy loads when the need arises. But when you need to get some serious work done, you better hope you have your cylinders in a row. Dowl Pin: The dowl pin problem is not pretty, I admit. I have never had it happen to me, but I have seen the damage it can cause. It's a pretty easy fix to prevent it though... Power: The fact that the Dmax has more hp and tq than any other engine is completely irrelevant to me, because when it comes to towing, I don't really care what the motor came with stock. What I care about it how much it will pull reliably, and the Cummins will flat out run a Dmax into the ground in that category. (I think the PSD can come in a close second) Warranty: Warranty is not really an issue to me either, because dodge "detunes" the cummins in the Ram. That engine is very capable of running very high hp/tq with no problems for several hundred thousand miles. And nowhere in the original topic did I read that he wanted the warranty, otherwise I would not have brought upgrades to the discussion. By the way, if you really want a warranty, Cummins offers a 230hp/605tq plate for the 12 valve that retains the warranty (albeit more expensive than an aftermarket plate, but still pushes you well over the Dmax's "amazing" 520ft-lb mark). Cavitation: I have seen it happen, but it is EXTREMELY rare in a Cummins, I believe you are thinking of the PSD, which requires more careful attention to the cooling system. The cummins has a way-overbuilt cooling system, and I have yet to run into problems there. Camshaft: Where did you hear this? The cam is the least of my (very few) worries. Cracked Sleeves: Again, not a typical problem, in fact I have never seen one personally and have heard of very very few of these. Any motor can have problems such as this, but it doesnt mean it is a common trait. And if it does happen, guess what? You can resleeve a cummins. Lift pump: There are sporadic problems with the VP44 (still rare), but I didn't endorse that pump for towing use, I was endorsing the P7100 in the '94-'97 12 valve motors which has proven rugged and reliable. Abuse: It's not that I don't "think more of my truck than to abuse it." It's just that I buy a TRUCK because I need a TRUCK. If I just wanted to run to the grocery store and back I would have purchased a smooth, quiet, Dmax. But that's not what I do, I need something that will take the abuse, and the dodges have (so has my ford for that matter). Are you afraid that if you abuse your truck it will self-destruct? That's too bad, should've bought something else then. Abuse (cont'd): No, you are right, there are not many people lined up to buy my old trucks, you know why? Because they have either been wrecked in one form or another (auto accident, one encounter with a 2000lb cow did the trick also), or they have too many miles to even think about trying to sell them. Like I said, I need a truck that will perform, and a truck that will last. When I buy a truck I don't think about what I will do when I sell it, because I don't ever plan on selling it. I plan on running it until it won't run any more. Which hasn't occurred prior to 250,000 miles except in one '94 Chevy 6.5 which I personally thought was a real piece of crap.
If you need to think about the resell-ability of your diesel before you buy it, then you should think about buying different model. (by the way, I take very good care of my trucks, and they take very good care of me. But I still work them hard.) Again, I will say, the Dmax may turn out to be a fantastic engine, but right now I would not be willing to take a chance on something I don't know will hold up.
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