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Re: 2019 GMC Duramax, navistar, Isuzu diesel


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Posted by jr1983 on January 15, 2018 at 14:21:47 from (74.206.45.187):

In Reply to: 2019 GMC Duramax, navistar, Isuzu diesel posted by buickanddeere on January 13, 2018 at 18:27:50:

Dealers and manufacturers have been able to slant results and use the gov safety crap as a way to make everything more costly. (Everything I am going to say about the rest of the world is the whole world except Canada and the us) required safety stuff in our vehicles is just crazy. Take tpms. Totally unnecessary. If you are not smart enough to tell if you have a low tire you shouldn't be allowed to drive. That said basically the way these things work the company's get together decide they are going to lobby wa to get this to be a requirement. That way they can release it a year or two early and say it was volunteer. Because they got it to be required you now have one more system to charge a customer for. One more to sell parts for and one more cause problems. You add up all the unnecessary "safety" systems and emissions systems and you have a truck that is 50k that without the unnecessary crap is probably a 20k machine. By doing so this puts the type of person who would buy a truck a lot farther up the income ladder than what it used to be. Just the ridiculous tier 4 regen systems are thousands. A simple CNG regulator and injection would cost thousands less and meet emissions without filters and not require exauste fluid but that wouldn't make enough money. Because of these things the people who buy trucks want loaded for bear options because they probably don't really need a pure workhorse anyway (and for 50k I would expect it to be nice) so the tendency is to have more automatic trans and frilly options. Its not a lack of demand it is a unnaturally manipulated market inflating the price to a point where the only people who buy an f350 are either those who can't live without it (farmer ect) who would probably rather have something else but can't get it or the wealthy. Either way its a person with a decent bank roll. So in the end this is why you can't but an inline six four speed with vynal mats. Or a manual transmission. The market has been allowed to be manipulated to a point that people who just need a or want a simple work truck can't afford one so they take whatever they can get. Has nothing to do with simple supply and demand. Also oldtanker most of my time in the army it took a higher gt to be a truck driver than a 63b.


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