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Re: Monsanto suing state of california


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Posted by WellWorn on January 28, 2017 at 08:53:10 from (64.66.127.214):

In Reply to: Monsanto suing state of california posted by glennster on January 27, 2017 at 16:32:16:

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Thanks for the reply, Dean.

Very true. Life is not risk free, and I fully grant you every right to take those risks for yourself. Chemicals in our environment are not just a risk for you. Roundup has shown far greater persistence in some soils than is 'advertised'. It has been found in the urine of city dwellers and in the breast milk of nursing moms. GMO traits are showing up in the wild. Plants and pests are rapidly becoming immune to the GMO traits, hence the "need" to add traits for increasingly toxic and persistent stuff like 2-4-5t.

Using these things puts you as an engineer on a train that all of us are aboard, and if you and the other engineers choose to go 250 mph (or shoot for 250bu/ac corn) just because there is more profit in it for you and all the others invested in this, you are not just risking your life, but the life and health of everyone else, even if that risk is to "only" 10% of the population. Is is worth it to have even one of 10 people you know become ill due to your acts? What if it was 20%? or more as a few billion more pounds of glyphosate+Dicamba+2-4-5t are applied every year that fewer and fewer yet bigger (and more subsidized) BTO's can "feed the world"?

Not a risk I want to take, nor support.

Nor do I have a simple and easy answer to "fix" this. The problems with ag are huge, entrenched, and the answers far from simple, in part because people value their 'stuff' far more than what goes into food or the cost to anyone or anything else in it's production, "just as long as it's cheap." They have McMansions to pay for, new cars or luxury SUV's, and huge data bills to stream Netflix and ESPN on their smart phones (upgraded every year), along with astronomical health insurance premiums to pay. The latter is not just indicative, but an indictment of just how inured we are to "fixing" problems, rather than preventing them.

Also an apology - I missed the previous post mentioning Carson.


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