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Posted by oldtanker on March 23, 2016 at 07:10:47 from (64.118.3.19):

In Reply to: Brussels posted by Ultradog MN on March 22, 2016 at 19:04:46:

Looks like my post was deleted so I'll try to be careful here.

From the posts so far the terrorist are winning. No, not because they bombed targets in Brussels but because of the panicked reaction of some people. Know why those in Europe handle it better? Because while we were sitting here in the US and Canada pretty much removed from it for years they dealt with politically motivated terrorist every day. Google the IRA, Red Brigade and the Baader Mienhof gang that operated in Ireland, England, Germany and Italy not to mention the occasional Muslim attacks. The Europeans have had these problems for a very long time. So they get mad, crack down on them and move on with life. Attacks against the US haven't been as common on US soil. We react with fear causing us to make rash decisions. That means against us they are winning.

Gotta be careful with the so called experts too. I watch one yesterday who claimed that the reason terrorist attack places like they do in Brussels is that those are soft targets as opposed to a military installation which is a hard target. That expert is dead wrong. For those old enough to remember they have attacked military targets like the Marine barracks in Lebanon. The terrorist didn't get the reaction they wanted. Yea we got mad but in the end people by and large forgot about it because "service members" are supposed to die for their country. We don't really think about it but it's in our sub conscious mind. Now kids on their way to school or civilian workers on the way to work are not supposed to die. These events stay in the news and strike fear into peoples hearts. Look at 9/11. People at the World Trade Center were not the only ones to die. But what do we think about? NYC and the WTC! We seem to forget about the plane the passengers brought down or the one that hit the Pentagon.

By and large a lot of these terrorist that put on an explosive vest or belt are uneducated peons. The people making the decisions on the other hand often have a very good education and learn what is the most effective means of getting their point across.

We don't have the military strength to go after these people. There are Muslim nations stretched from North Africa clear over into Asia. We would have to simultaneously invade them all at the same time so as to prevent safe havens. That means air assets to support each invasion and 2-3 divisions of troops if not more per country. We have 10 Army divisions. We only need 14 to 26 more minimum! Places like Pakistan would require even more. Then add in we would have to occupy parts of India too. Parts of the former Soviet Union too. Russia isn't going to stand for that. None of these countries are going to welcome us with open arms. Both Pakistan and India have nuclear weapons too so that has to be addressed. Basically you have to eliminate the source of recruits, money and safe havens plus capture or kill the leadership all at the same time.

Calm down. We need to follow the example of Europe as to how we deal with this. We do not need to sacrifice liberty for a sense of security. And that's all it would be is a sense. It wouldn't be real security. Heck guns in general are hard to obtain in Europe compared to the US yet they used fully automatic weapons in the attacks in Paris. There wasn't any added security from weapon laws there. We need to act on this threat, not react.

Rick


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