Re: 96 Dodge ram brakes

Posted by The tractor vet on December 31, 2015 at 09:44:36 from (104.179.81.68):

In Reply to: Re: 96 Dodge ram brakes posted by MSM on December 31, 2015 at 05:29:10:

Well THAT is not totally true , As this i was informed by the head service manager for Dexter Axles at the main plant years back when i had a trailer brake failure . I stopped by there main plant just to see if i could BUY all new brake parts so i had everything to rebuild the brakes on my trailer . I did not know that i would cause such a commotion just by stopping by The next thing i knew there were peopel coming out it to the waiting room and asking all kinds of questions about my problem . Then the head service manager came in and had me take my truck and trailer LOADED with two high dollar John Deere tractors and one Massey 95 to the service dept. and back it in a service bay . In a matter of min. the trailer was up off the ground load and all and all four wheels were off all four backing plates with everything attached to them were layen on the floor and new backing plated with all pieces and part going back on with new wiring . All i could think about was THIS IS GOING TO HURT my check book . RON the service manager and i were talking and he informed me that the electric trailer brake is NOT designed to STOP you , it is Designed to SLOW you down and it is the truck brakes that are designed to STOP you . IF YOU WANT A TRAILER BRAKE THAT WILL STOP YOU then you either NEED a VAC. over Hyd. Electric over Hyd or you need AN AIR BRAKE So my friend you are like most people and think that well my truck will PULL Anything i can load on that trailer , well yes it may pull anything you load on that trailer it AIN'T AH GOING TO STOP IT . And again MOST people that have a trailer how many of you inspect it regularly check your brakes and adjust your brakes MANUALY then do a WALK AROUND once hooked up check tires for ware and air pressure check all lightrs and your tie down points for cracks along with frame cross members and supencion ? But anyway I lucked out as my trailer had been over looked on a recall for a brake update and my bill when done was a hand shake and a thank you . But Ron the service manger opened my eyes on electric trailer brakes . I also had a ongoing problem with my 88 Ford F350 with brakes when the outside temp.s got above 80 degrees and on a long steady pull where you were working it , yes i was able to hold any highway speed but you were working the engine . exhaust temps were high and the left exhaust pipe ran real close to the anti loc brake control valve and it would cause the brake fluid to boil and force brake fluid back up to the master cylinder and even cause it to over flow , So when you went to stop and pressed down on the brake pedal it went to the floor all the way and you had NO BRAKES on the truck at all. Plus with the way the new brake controllers work unless it sences the truck nose dive just even a little it does NOT actavate the trailer brake controller , now IF you are fast enough thinker and fast reaction time and applied the traler brake controller manualy you were NOT slowing down . You notice i said SLOWING DOWN . About the same thing applys to big trucks with air brakes if the tractor or trailer are not adjusted up correctly and one is or the other is out of adjustment guess what YOU AE NOT GOING TO STOP . Even back in my old caol hauling days we knew we needed good brakes to stop the loads and we went to great lenghts to do so . Yes we hauled extremlly heavy and a lot of us had what they called Mountain brakes on our outfits . These brakes where way larger then the standard brake . Our how outfit was designed and built for the job we were doing . 90-95 % of you guys do not design and have your trucks built for the job you plan to do with them , you run out to the dealer and BUY what is on the lot with out reguard to how the truck is equiped . Ok so it has a trailer TOW pklg. on it . There idea of a trailer TOW is not your idea of trailer TOW . There's is the weekend camper or the weekend boater . yes some of the shell we say Campers will darn near max out the truck . And we are over maxing the truck. Like my 88 Ford as it sat empty with full tanks it weighed in at 7500 lbs , then drop the goose neck down on it and pull the WHOLE truck and trailer on the scales with all the chains and binder my two leveling bridges and a spare tire and the combined truck and trailer weighted in at 15000 on the nose . Now at the time according to FORD my truck was capible of 18500 GCVW , BUT you looked at the sticker on the door piller and it said 11500 , then you looked at the sticker on the neck of the trailer and it read 18500 . So by that i am good to go ------ NOT , but we all do this . Yes the truck can handle a load of 11500 LBs total , yes the trailer can handle 18500Lbs , so that comes up to 30000 wright when in reality i have exceded what the truck really can handle . Same applys to the War Dept.'s Durango they say it can handle 7500 lbs TOW , that is total Durango and what you have behind it . I hope this helps . Oh and i learned way back i 78 DO NOT truct anitloc brakes . I had a brand new semi tractor and a brand new dump trailer that DID NOT STOP in a panic stop situation no matter what i did tryen to stop , computer said wheels were locking up and released all brake air pressure to the brakes and i relocated the rear bumper on a Cheve impala to the back window . I had BOTH FEET on the double wide brake pedal i bent the handle on the trailer brake and broke both knobs off the parking brake and trailer brake vakves and the truck said NOPE I AIN'T STOPPEN just yet. Had it been the old truck there would have been 22 skid marks on the road and there would have been 22 tires with flat spost on them . Now had the state cop not just come from his third accident for the day involving a new semi with anit loc brakes i may have been in deep dodo and the fact that eight people all said they heard the air being released while the brake lights were still on . Need less to say i violated Fed. reg.s by removing all the anti loc control valves on the tractor and trailer and replaced them with the older style reg brake valves . Then the truck would stop when needed Those mountain brakes were massive and you had to be vary light on the pedal when empty .

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