Re: OT respecting our police

Posted by Bret4207 on December 27, 2014 at 05:44:43 from (64.19.90.196):

In Reply to: OT respecting our police posted by David G on December 24, 2014 at 07:22:39:

As many of you know I was a NYS Trooper for over 20 years. I know at least 2 of my co-workers are on this board too. I have the same respect for other police officers as I do anyone else. We should all be treated politely and with respect until something is done that dictates another course of action be taken. The problem with policing is you are going to be the bad guy in at least 75% of the cases for at least half the people. Someone calls and has a problem. You do what you can to make it right, if the law allows you to. The law doesn't always allow you to do what people think you should do. If the law doesn't allow you to fix the problem, then you are in the wrong, 100%, probably a lazy no good bum too. Other times you end up with someone you do have to take action with, a ticket or some other minor thing, and to the person on the receiving end you are the biggest pain the butt to ever come down the road. Doesn't matter what you do or how you say it, they are going to be mad. The fact it's something they did to get themselves in the situation isn't considered. The same thing goes for actual crimes and arrests. I will tell you this, I've been treated lots worse by middle class, pillar of the community types getting a speeding ticket or DWI than I have by most career type criminals.

Are there cops that have an attitude and are sick to death of their job or just have a poor personalty from the word go? Of course. The rest of tour society is like that too. People are people and we all have flaws. Every baby cop out there goes out on his first day ready to right the wrongs and save the world. 5-7 years later he's burnt out, disillusioned, shocked and cynical shadow of what he was. Push his buttons and you'll get just what you'd give anyone else if you were like that. It's a terrible career and a great one. Not everyone belongs on the job and not everyone is capable of putting up with the daily crap load of stuff from both sides and maintaining anything like a cheerful attitude. The job pushes you one way, the people you deal with push you another and you do your best to function within those parameters.

As far as outside agencies investigating police, you try dealing with IAB and see hows it goes for you. I've seen bad cops fired and arrested, I've seen good cops put through the wringer for NOTHING and I've seen good cops get the shaft a number of times. There is nothing at all fair about a system where you can make a completely anonymous complaint and it's handled like you showed up and gave a deposition. IMO, that's wrong. But either way, IAB or outside agency, they have an agenda to fry cops and that will be their agenda. They will work things that way, all cops are guilty until proven innocent. That would be the same as the majority here believes when they read a headline about an alleged issue with any police officer. People get all upset when a cop kills someone, but no one gives a rats hind end when a cop gets killed. That's your agenda and POV.

I hear people talk about the "us vs them" mentality. It works both ways. You speed, you get caught, you get a ticket, you dislike it. It colors your perception. Always been that way, it will always be that way. If I caught your neighbor doing 66 in a 55 and let him go but caught you doing 74 in a 55 and gave you a ticket I'm a jerk. If the roles were reversed I'd be a great guy and your neighbor would be a jerk for complaining. Human nature. You see the cop whizz by you at well over the posted speed limit and no lights on and you think he's out joy riding. The fact he might be trying to catch up to someone a mile ahead of you that was just involved in a hit and run or is the subject of an Amber Alert and he's trying not to spook the BG is lost on you. Or he goes by lights and siren and 1/2 mile later turns them off and pulls into a empty parking lot, you figure he's just driving that way for kicks when the fact he was on his way to a serious accident or something and got called off is lost on you. You call in a complaint and the cop takes an hour and half to get there. You're po'd but the fact the cop was at a personal injury accident when the call came in and is the only guy working that patrol area is lost on you. It's not your problem, all you know is you had to wait to report a burglary that occurred sometime between the end of deer season and Memorial Day. Then you're mad because the cop asks you if you know the make and model of the tv's and guns and chainsaws you had stolen! This is stuff that's happened to me a number of times. God's honest truth folks, not every thing that gets you mad in an interaction with police is the cops fault.

In the end, if we all obeyed the laws and treated each other respectfully it would go a good ways towards fixing a lot of our issues.

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