Adding pop-up in furrow -also- Which no-till closing wheels?

Posted by John_PA on December 10, 2014 at 06:20:11 from (72.95.150.145):

When I changed my Keeton seed firmers on my JD 7000 last year, I bought the ones with blue liquid tubes in hopes of getting pop-up installed this year.

Now that I am looking at different systems, I'm reading that sometimes a squeeze pump can affect the accuracy of the seed placement.

I read that an electric pump would be much better for a low gal/acre pop-up application. So, what should I be looking for? I see that the local tractor place has small 12 volt pumps with 35 psi for small quad sprayers for around $100. Then, I look at kits with most everything you need, and they are $2000. Which way have you gone? I think I'll just add a 60 gallon tank to the planter, so as not to add too much extra weight. I'm already carrying dry fertilizer with bin extensions on my 6 row.



Since I am going to drag the planter into the shop, I would like to install a no-till system. I did a parts search through my catalogs, and I have a good idea of what I would like as far as a no-till set-up. because of my rocky limestone clay soil, I am not going to use a no-till coulter. Instead, I am changing my openers to the heavy duty ones, with new v-slicers, yetter row cleaners with the aluminum depth wheels, max-emerge 2 style adjustable closing wheel mounts, and drag chains.

As for the closing wheels, I am stuck on what to do. I have rubber closers now, and I am going to buy a set of new ones for when I do conventional tillage. That leaves me with many options for no-till. I have seen planters that have a rubber closer on one side and a 15 inch spike on the other side. I have seen the 13 inch spikes on both side. I have seen heavy cast steel solid closers. Also, a guy around here has some sort of round steel bar finger closers that are basket shaped. I can't find them anywhere for sale. The newest thing I have seen is a set of heavy plastic(UHMW) spiked closers that are supposed to be super slippery, and super heavy like steel. Those are made by copperhead ag.

What I have right now is a single pair of cast steel solid closers and a full set of rubber closers. What I was thinking of doing in the spring is setting up the planter with one set of rubber closers on one row, one cast steel solid set on another, one set of 13 inch spikes on the third, a mixed set of rubber wheel and 15 spike on the fourth, the copperhead ag plastic ones on the fifth, and a set of either 13 spike with the aluminum depth gauges on the sixth, or those round steel bar baskets if I can find out what they are and where to get them. I am thinking I can go out in late april at burn down time, and do a test in burned down sod, and then another test in bean stubble if the ground is warm enough. That should give me about a week to see what the emergence is like, and a week to order the full set of the closers that do the best, before corn goes in, around May 10th. That's my earliest planting date in these steep valleys. We plant any earlier and we get killing frost. The test strips in April would then be at the mercy of the weather.

So, what would you do? What systems have worked best for you? Anyone switching out closing wheels between soil types? Any system that just doesn't work at all?

it's only December 10th and I am already going nutty being stuck inside the house. Time for my winter project!

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• Re: Adding pop-up in furrow -also- Which no-till closing wheels? Eric in IL 12:23:57 12/10/14 (1)
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• Re: Adding pop-up in furrow -also- Which no-till closing wheels? jwmfarms 07:17:32 12/10/14 (2)
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• Re: Adding pop-up in furrow -also- Which no-till closing wheels? DeltaRed 07:01:25 12/10/14 (6)
  • Re: Adding pop-up in furrow -also- Which no-till closing wheels? super99 12:43:24 12/10/14 (2)
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• Re: Adding pop-up in furrow -also- Which no-till closing wheels? CumminsMan 06:34:45 12/10/14 (2)
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