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Re: Deer hunting neighbors - ugh


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Posted by Billy NY on November 23, 2014 at 07:03:02 from (66.67.105.23):

In Reply to: Deer hunting neighbors - ugh posted by JML755 on November 22, 2014 at 15:20:01:

One of the the things that stands out is that people today, do not acknowledge posted signs, and the law is difficult to enforce, as well as not being harsh enough to deter a person with enough attitude to enter lands that are posted. At least in NY it is. In this area it seems so and of course with it being a common situation, law enforcement becomes irritated at times, when they receive a call about it, and our other favorite violator, ATV riders.

The other thing is, why don't people take the time to politely ask, explain their situation, and show some respect for the person who has at their expense, bought land ??? Sure I am aware of the fence cutters, slobs and other types that don't have a sense of respect or appreciation, but there plenty out there who are not like that and would highly appreciate the privilege of having permission.

No one asks any more, and no one respects posted signs at all, as I see locally.


About the best you can do is fill in the gaps of the fence, see what you can do with perhaps some game cameras or something hidden to positively ID the violators, then use the law. At that time, you'll want to be prepared for escalation, trespassers can be a spiteful, vengeful, and dangerous element as I have seen from experience. People in general, can just be a real miserable pain to deal with at times, and it seems there is a fair amount of that contained within those who exhibit determination to continually and repeatedly enter lands that are posted, empowered by the fact that most larger tracts of land, are usually never patrolled, given the size, the expense and the time required, hence their empowered exploitation, and... "whada ya gonna do about it?" It's often exacerbated by people new to an area or, or a new land owner who suddenly changes things, or the status of the perimeter and any or all assumed permissions by long standing residents that have been on the land prior too. If you want an example of this, then click on the link below, the first story, a long time friend, I hunted on this land during all of this, not so much for hunting lets say, the article is truthful, I've never seen a more miserable bunch.

The one thing the article does not mention is his former military affiliation, he was a well trained soldier and an extremely talented fighter, was a lot of fun to spar with LOL ! It's surprising he never really engaged this element, and I know the area quite well, those who reside there are lets say a rare and isolated breed, maybe add a prefix of "in"......

It just shows the determination of the trespassers and how a situation can escalate into something very serious.

Myself and another friend had an open invitation to hunt this land, well we were welcome, and one evening after a successful hunt, while field dressing it, a white unmarked van slowly approached the very long lane to his house and outbuildings. They could not see us, my first instinct was to retreat to some cover and literally set up on this van, when it arrived, the door opened and it was a very attractive lady from fox news, they wanted the story, and it was filmed in front of us and broadcast later that evening.

I've never seen or thought a situation like this possible, and is why I mention being prepared for escalation.

I learned from this situation and so far have successfully kept it from happening here on this land, which is surrounded at a distance by small neighborhoods, of which, some hunt on the adjacent farm lands and everyone of them is a lousy shot, based on fact, numerous shots every year and the wounded deer I have seen or found.

So as many good respectful hunters that there are, there are also some of the worst hunters out there, like with any denomination or class of people, its just how it is, the complexity of the human race with all its problems.



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