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Re: OT--Decreasing American Skilled Workers?


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Posted by wisbaker on August 30, 2014 at 10:25:52 from (173.30.33.15):

In Reply to: OT--Decreasing American Skilled Workers? posted by Jiles on August 30, 2014 at 07:04:32:

I think some of the problem is the unbalance in our society. Remember hanging around a repair shop waiting
for an alignment on our company's truck. The owner of the shop was talking with the guy in front of me who
had a Pontiac Trans AM. Seems they were attacking a problem that had been with the car since new. The shop
owner explained factors in the issues he had been having. First was when he bought the car, it was about
the time the owner of the local Pontiac dealer was getting ready to retire, the last 2 or 3 years he ran
the dealer his only interest was to scoop up as much money as he could. Another problem is they were
fixing something that hadn't been done right on the line so you have someone making $18 to $20 dollars on
hour on the line (this was a long time ago) who couldn't/wouldn't do their job and then someone at the
dealer making $7.00 to $8.00 flat rate having to fix it. The flat rate warranty only paid to repair but
wouldn't pay to diagnose. Additionally we have Pontiac (GM) trying to be "thrifty" with the claim, often
screwing over the dealer on the warranty claim. Take the previous example someone cited about a cross-fire
Camaro, it was probably wrong from the factory and GMs answer aided by the dealer was for the owner to
live with it. And there is a good chance the owner went back and bought another GM car. So GM and the
dealer really didn't have any repercussions from not providing the goods & services they sold with the
Camaro. More and more that is changing and that's why we have seen an increase in other non-big three
automobiles here in the USA.

So if you had reasonable intelligence and were looking to start a career and make yourself a living where
would you go? Unskilled at GM for $20 OR Skilled at the local dealer for $8.00 and have to fight to get
that? Business and cars and about anything else has gotten so darn complex it requires different skill
sets to do both well. 40-50 years ago a guy with some mechanical skills could get into the repair business
with a reasonable investment, run the business and fix stuff. As I said before with tax codes and OSHA,
and the EPA it takes one person just to run the business, so we add employees to the mix so now we can add
labor law, benefits, family leave and hiring and firing to the mix, still haven't dealt with the actual
task of fixing cars. The complexity of the cars requires MORE tools and knowledge which equates to more
money. As we talked earlier the manufacturers don't want to pay market value for this service, the dealers
don't want to pay market value for the labor and guess what the customer/owner doesn't want to pay market
value either.

There are some changes occurring in business, some business leaders are focusing more on optimizing their
results and accept that the employees are an integral part of keeping customers. Retaining customers is
often cheaper than trying to get new ones, and once you have a good relationship their might be more
potential for profit. More and more businesses, including big ones are finding out a "take it or leave it"
attitude is basically telling the customer to go somewhere else. Still maybe don't understand the effect
of wages ans quality and so much of our entitlement attitude or Union attitude has separated the
quality/quantity of production from the money earned for producing the good or service.

Bottom line is we are losing a lot of talent because we don't feel we need it anymore, so there isn't a
reward for developing those skills. The said part is that belief might only be partially true, we are
losing some capabilities we'll need and want.


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