Re: Female vs male.

Posted by Billy NY on January 31, 2014 at 18:47:11 from (72.226.79.200):

In Reply to: Female vs male. posted by JayinNY on January 31, 2014 at 16:00:44:

I grew up and in later years got back involved with thoroughbreds, foals, mares and all the rest, thats a tough question thinking back.

Thinking about the later years of doing that work, I've seen more exceptions to the rule than not. We have a stallion that is just unreal, I'd trust him more than any other horse I've ever dealt with. Sure when he was younger, he'd stand up, test you, pain to load, but if you did not see through that with him, you missed the hidden gem he is and if a former WWII bomber pilot now in his 90's could ride him, its hard to say where you would find a better stallion in that breed. He has more character than not, he still liked to goof around, play and of course he would test you when he could. He gave me a little nip while I was in his stall one time, and knew what that would get him, took off out the back door, thankfully not kicking though I was out of the way, I popped out right after him and he was just outside, I swear laughing if he could, bucking/kicking, and a fartin up a good ole time, happier than a pig in the proverbial shite !

There have been times when I just don't have the patience for the way things are done at this place and the lack of help, and getting those darned horses out of the pasture, back to the barn, for me was a nightmare. You need more than one person, can't get that, I aint getting hurt, and I sure as heck don't want them getting injured either. I believe my father was there that day sort of laid up, and its the end of the day, I have a 30 mile ride, theres a storm coming and they are acting up, can't get em in, so I said to heck with it, opened the gate, and said what happens, happens, either that or they stay out, and thats no good either. One problem, that stallion was out in his paddock. See when you are ticked off, you don't think, I should have closed the door, closed off his paddock, made sure he was in the stall first. The others were around the barn, found some grazing, I could get them one at a time, but the one mare, had to go over and visit the stallion between the tractor and the manure spreader and the fence. At that point I would have liked to just walked off that place, not my problem, I'm not going to get killed over what amounts to welfare pay. I went over there and figured what I had best do, no time to think it over, just had to act, this stallion some how listened to me, I don't know how the heck i did it, but I would not back off him, I was madder than heck, but not letting them see that, just can't do that with horses, mare was older too, not in heat, but she may have helped, decided to leave, I'll never know, but makes more sense thinking about it than a stallion listening to anyone trying to keep him away from any mare. This was a volatile situation, worst thing is that stallion gets a leg caught in that rotten ag fence they use, I hate that stuff with a passion for horses, but thats what they use. Luckily there was a top board rail, and if he gets a leg up that does help from them getting caught. Well I nudged her out and he did back off with me on his arse like a drill instructor, maybe he did listen a bit, another would have stomped you. I'd have been heartbroken if he got hurt, would have been my fault.

I had a gelding fresh off the track, jumped 2 fences and walked across the frozen pond to pay this same stallion a visit, once while I was framing the roof of the nearby barn that partially collapsed, I got them apart both times too. The other time the stallion broke that top rail, if he got that leg caught, darned gelding spooked in the barn got away from me, just happens sometimes. I worked with that gelding, for awhile, we got him and another in some deal from Joe McMahon's place, both seemed promising, that one gelding, had been abused or something, he eventually turned into sneaky mean s.o.b. not sure why, but I'd soon as put a bullet in him if he came my way, I could tell he'd try and hurt me if I ever took an eye off him, I tried a few things with him, one cocky and dangerous animal, don't take much for him to strike, don't turn your back on him in a stall and NEVER go in a paddock with him. I trained him in the hitchcock pen, like what the calvary used, I built this pen for my dad. He was a top notch jumper, people noticed it, but there was something awry. Same darned horse I could walk in the rain using an umbrella !!! My father has been in that business since high school, only saw one other person do that ever, and she was highly experience, I am not ! I casually walked by in the rain, umbrella open, which would strike fear in any other horse, no problem. I'll never figure any of them out, this guy was just out there. We have another gelding, I used to work him in the arena, no lunge line, just verbal commands and I'd take some cover by some jump standards for a barrier, walk, trot, canter, it was the best part of my day, me and him, of course he was hand raised, I brought him home from Cornell, brought him back when he colic'd real bad, saved his life, he put me through hell that day, it was worth it. He was just like his dad, that great stallion, maybe a little sarcastic to some riders, but I've never been able to verbally command or should I say something to a horse not on some kind of line, and he'd do just as you ask right on cue, I had him in top shape before me leg gave out with all problems, which finally seem to be gone now. Darned horses are something else. I can go there any time, find that stallion in the far corner, give a whistle and he will come right over, they don't forget, treat them as you would like to be treated it goes a long way. We had another stallion, quite a bit more ornery, I would not take any crap from him, I also tried to do nice things for him, no one seemed to care to work with him, he was a gem inside too, he came flying over after not seeing me in months, grabbed my carhart at the chest, and I swear he was like where the heck have you been ?, They just don't forget, as dumb, stubborn or as ornery as they can get, treat em bad, you'll get yours I guarantee it !

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