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Re: Engineering triumphs post revisited...sort of...


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Posted by VaTom on October 27, 2013 at 06:57:29 from (70.32.203.34):

In Reply to: Engineering triumphs post revisited...sort of... posted by NCWayne on October 26, 2013 at 23:27:21:

Ignoring our points of disagreement Wayne... pretty sure neither of us has any interest in dealer service.

There"s a new farm tractor I maintain for a client. I much prefer my older tractors. Neither of us has ever determined fuel economy, or care to. We don"t put on enough hours per year to pay much attention. I could have bought 10 of my 50 yr old Cats for what he paid for one new tractor. The last Cat I sold (at a profit) went to a new life in Peru after it served me well.

Simple economics.

I"m car-shopping and have no use for pre OBD II. I want an expensive toy, without having to pay much. Found an ideal candidate: an unbelievably complicated car that dealer service is so expensive to maintain the price on a decade old one is very low. With that much history, it"s easy to determine what tends to fail and which systems don"t have problems. Would you believe a typical repair bill for a badly designed broken glove box handle is nearly $1k? OTOH, the system that determines exactly how much power to supply each wheel (AWD) according to driving conditions doesn"t break.

I"ll pay around $5k for a car that cost almost $40k new (now around $60k) and still has more miles left in it than I"ll ever drive. The only way this could happen is with the advanced systems, and a $150 repair manual. I downloaded the diagnostic codes: 21 pages of small print. Tools, you buy what you need, including diagnostic ones.


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