Re: Tower Crane

Posted by Billy NY on May 23, 2013 at 11:03:02 from (72.226.79.200):

In Reply to: Re: Tower Crane posted by Heat Houser on May 23, 2013 at 09:45:48:

You must have been a IUOE Local #14 operator, those are some significant buildings you were on. This one was diagonal to St. Patricks Cathedral on 5th Ave, its the H&M building.

NY Crane handles Favco, think they are a dealer, the engineer I used in those days, Stroh Engineering, did quite a bit besides the D.O.B. and D.O.T. filings in NYC, worked extensively with NY Crane and the engineering aspect of these kinds of cranes. I used to deal with Sal and Joe at NY crane, and Peter Stroh did my filings, he told me of his travels to the manufacturers, I believe he was very familiar with Favco, and he was a pleasure to deal with, even when the darned GC's would jam these insane compressed schedules on us, he always came through. It was really disheartening to know he did the filing on the Favco that was being raised further up and they lost a ring, which sheared off the connections to the building, causing it to fall, March 2008. I could not believe what happened and hoped it did not ruin Stroh, or NY (Stroh was "the" best engineering outfit for cranes, and filings in NYC, I'd go nowhere else for any reason, top notch outfit. That was a tough break on that one for them, both Stroh and NY. They apparently used faulty slings and it dropped a 12 ton ring,(what ties it to the building) seems to me they got greedy and picked it in one piece to save time, however not having been there, not for me to say, 'cept off record of course ! That and the person on the TR-1 as a super was not present, I was always a designated super and anytime there was a crane on site it was my job to oversee all aspects including rigging. You have to check that rigging, and observe what is going on, stop anything that is unacceptable. I prefer wire rope myself, slings get UV damage, fray easy and are very costly. I always wondered why another tie back, one that could not be sheared off, could be rigged to a superstructure, to hold back the tower, in the event this situation occurred because there is no back up, you climb that crane and drop that piece its over.

I used to deal with Local 14 quite a bit in those days, NY Crane and Cranes Inc, I would not give a warm bucket of spit for Bay Crane, always got pain in the @ss hot shot operators, NY had good down to earth operators that get the job done without the hassle. Cripes, the engineer or what have you, undersized a 50 ton and i can't say it was even that, never really knew but the buzzer went off in a pick, but he got it safely down. The next day, and I had no time for a city filing, NY delivered for me again, I tucked in a 175 ton hydraulic behind the gate and finished my work, all without any permits, had to be done, and it was on me/us if something went wrong. GC on your @ss, huge fine if we got caught, same crane had to be out and off site right after, they needed it to film spiderman II. NY always came through for me and I'd give them all the work we had, too bad the division I ran folded, we really had a good rep with these companies and some high profile work.

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