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O.T. landowner/power lines/Atv's/fences


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Posted by Billy NY on April 03, 2013 at 13:56:26 from (72.226.79.200):

Well, it appears I have some aggressive ATV'ers, whom just mashed a recent fence put up bordering one of our fields but has power lines bisecting the field diagonally, whereas they have easy access to the power company land all along it, and use it to access privately held land, that is clearly posted. Every spring this problem "crops up" or so it seems, and I am noticing I have more of a persistent problem as of late.

I spoke with forestry/right of way agent at the power company, National Grid to be specific.
Their position is that no one should be trespassing on their lands, and they have limited security resources, and recommend calling law enforcement, with all that it entails to possibly make an arrest.

I am well aware of making a positive ID, and and what would be of most help to police to bolster their effort to make an arrest. I think that aspect of this is relatively clear and I do have an understanding of vehicle and traffic laws, as well as penal laws in regard to trespassing in NY.

The frustrating part of this, is that because of the geometry, and the "lay of the land", I am being denied the use of this field if I want to put livestock in it, or of a lesser value but still equatable in monetary loss, is compaction, erosion, damage to field crops, and or whatever else can be associated with convoy's of ATV's passing through. I do not want ATV's on my land, period and have every right to stop them, yet some of this is a gray area, cops are not very interested in enforcement, and maybe its a case of who I speak to, what the situation is, its not easy on either side, that is understood.

One of the measures I'd like to employ is some sort of camera, does anyone have any suggestions, no power, so a game cam would be ok, but to hide this and make it hard to steal, I'd have to camo it in one of the large trees, on either side of a 175' width, otherwise it will get stolen. I can easily use a hollowed out tree bark covered knot with a hole sawn off a tree, I have several in my wood shed, very hard to spot a camera in one of those secured to a tree trunk, I am at the point I want to nail these people and use every intelligent means to do so, so am wondering what kinds of cameras people use, the ranges of same or other means, also thought it good discussion material, but please don't get me poofed with talk of booby traps or violence etc. LOL !!!!

I can legally use a means to slash tires, posted signs afford that legally, as an owner is to have the reasonable expectation that no one will enter as long as its posted conspicuously. Some will argue, on that one, take me to court, I won't stand down on that, other actions one can take, are a little more ambiguous and will put you at higher risk, too much room for interpretation and for the law to go against you, seems to be a fine line. I wish we had some stronger laws/punishment for this, but infringement on 2nd amendment rights seems to be more important.


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