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Re: Union shop would have protected you


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Posted by MFPoor on November 19, 2012 at 09:57:09 from (72.4.0.230):

In Reply to: Re: Union shop would have protected you posted by dr sportster on November 19, 2012 at 09:41:17:

Definitely not the case here. Some non union residential pays low, but there's plenty of non union commercial that pays scale or above, with good benefits, opportunity to move up within the company, and no dead spots between jobs. Like any occupation, there's opportunity for those with skill and ability. I've even found a number of VERY good paying residential jobs where skills required are above what the average carpenter can do.

Our local is 99% political. You have to play up to officers. They tell you how to vote, what to think, and who to treat like dirt. Not my cup of tea. I've seen guys who can't tell you which end of a claw hammer to hold and which end to hit a nail with who get favoritism. The union contractors I have a history with tended to accept poor craftsmanship and slow production, where the non union contractor I'm with now is all about excellence and staying ahead of schedule. With almost 40 years of union work, I left for a $8 an hour pay increase, 4 weeks PAID vacation, and the opportunity to work for a firm with the reputation of high quality work done ahead of schedule. And we don't have to work like slaves to get there. It's done by not wasting time. Popular phrase amongst union carpenters I used to work with was: "Expand the task at hand to fit the time available". Translation; Take every speck of time allowed no matter how much it bogs down production.


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