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Re: 12 ga or 20 ga?


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Posted by Dean Olson on September 26, 2012 at 06:22:17 from (98.196.66.64):

In Reply to: 12 ga or 20 ga? posted by 5020s rock on September 26, 2012 at 02:25:05:

Either gauge will be fine.

My opinions:

Get serious about this!!! It's a very serious, solemn thing your talking about that requires great responsibility. Because you "feel" like it seems like you taking it lightly.

Don't go cheap on the gun! Get a Remington,Browning, or Berreta. Why would you go cheap on a tool that your wanting to protect lives.

Recoil, typically a 20 ga recoil "feels" like a 12 gauge because the 20 gauge guns are scaled down and lighter. They are very close in velocities. Difference is in the amount of shot. 20 gauge is typically 7/8 to 1oz of shot and 12's are typically 1-1 1/8th oz. Pattern sizes are similar, especially at close range. I base this opinion on lessons given to young people and watching how their bodies react to recoil. I now put them into the heaviest gun they can handle with the lightest load irrespective of gauge. A 20 in a 12 gauge framed gun is a sweet shooter.

Slugs and buckshot inside a building are not a great idea due to over penetration. A bad guy will be just as stopped by a load of #8's, and the smaller shot shouldn't go through the wall into the nursery, then into neighbors house.

A shot gun's pattern, at in the house ranges, is not going to open up much if at all. I prefer a pistol that can be held close and not taken away by a bad guy as the barrel comes around the corner before you do.

To emphasize what damage a gun can do, I had my kids shoot watermelons. Not a lot of difference between #9's and buck shot at close range. To my previous point their's not a whole bunch of difference between the shot gun and a .45acp up close. Both make big holes and do major damage. NO melons survived.

Everybody likes to talk about stopping power and 1 shot kills. The only way that happens is with precise shot placement, or luck, to the central nervous system or a big bone. Not easy to do in a high stress situation. I believe that most do bads are cowards and will be thinking about something different (being somewhere else) when a gun is shown or goes off.

Remember the 92 year old that recently killed a burglar with with .22 rifle from his easy chair. 1 shot stop with precise shot placement. It's not the arrow it's the indian.

Definitely get a lesson from a buddy or range officer at the local range on basics of operating your gun. Those options are usually low cost to free.. Then get professional training on self defense.


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