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Re: resonding to old post.....your choice of a 90-100 hp ...


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Posted by Jack a on June 28, 2012 at 04:51:24 from (129.176.151.11):

In Reply to: resonding to old post.....your choice of a 90-100 hp in 70's posted by oldtanker on June 27, 2012 at 13:04:25:

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Darn it, I typed up quite a bit but then youtube crashed my puter (I was listening while I typed). Starting over..........I've got relatives in Alex. Gary and Danny Boettner. They had been refurbishing old houses but may have rejoined in the family business called Custom Aire doing mostly commercial heating and air. I've kinda lost tract as to if they are still in Alex or now in Henderson. Back to the subject........

I think the first successful IPTO was in 46' by either Oliver or Cockshutt but after that AC still outsold those by quite a bit with the WD being #1 in sales for it's HP class in 51' and the 45 in 54'. I think what really hurt AC was the hydraulics later in the D17 and especially the D19. Not very compatible and really very poor output in the D19 and also no hydrostatic PS until the D21. That's when AC had a chance to catch up in sales. The D21 was a modern well built tractor but then the early 190XT shot them in the foot even though during the 2nd year of production AC put the heavier rear end in them. They should have changed the model designation to get away from the bad rep. I'll agree that coming to the 3 point late hurt also but it's arguable as to which performed better, the 3 point or Snap Coupler. SC drafts much better and is usually easier to hook up but removing the hitch each time doesn't sell well especially in larger tractors.

When the 7000 series came out I really think there was no better tractor built but at the same time AC was killing it's hay line and other things too. The 7080 was a lemon with crank troubles (redoing the pump to turn slower rpms while keeping the same hp helps tremendously). The combines was another story as during the 60's and 70's the gleaner reigned supreme in the US market with well liked machines that did a good job and were simple even while possessing all the bells and whistles that no one else had by the 1970's. I remember reading an old "Big Farmer" magazine, which I have a copy of, that rated the L and every other make against each other except Deere. Deere refused to participate. And the L won hands down but some said all the electronics were just a fad and wouldn't last. That was 1972 or 73. I know I'm prejudice. It can't be helped. :~)

Ba


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